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    Thank you! For clarity... is that "born Arnold" meaning surname Arnold?

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    Apologies for any confusion - William Hallam's birthplace on the '51 Census was "Arnold, Notts" - as reflected in the baptismal record..

    Next door is another Hallam family, and the Head, Henry Hallam, 35, Framework Knitter was born East Leake - which is also the birth place of William's father John Hallam.

    Will check for possible connection.
    "dyfal donc a dyr y garreg"

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    Quote Originally Posted by kittwoll View Post
    The certificate states that they were both widowed and he was from Nottingham. A surprise to me, since most of my ancestors are from Warwickshire and Staffordshire!
    These are counties which are either adjacent to one another or very close to one another.

    A site that you will find very useful is GENUKI:
    https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng

    Hopefully that link will take you to a nice colourful map of England showing the various counties, with their names abbreviated.
    Nottingham is NTH; Warwichshire is WAR and Staffordshire is STS.

    Another very useful page on GENUKI is their gazeteer:
    https://www.genuki.org.uk/gazetteer

    Insert "Arnold" into the place name serach and it will helpfully bring up a number of possibilities in England including one in Nottinghamshire:
    https://www.genuki.org.uk/node/64325

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    FMP baptism (transcription)
    Henry Hallam, bap 17 Aug 1817, bap place East Leake, parents Joseph and Mary, father's occpn. framework knitter

    Yet to find a John Hallam, born c. 814, East Leake, parents Joseph and Mary.

    1841 Census - ref HO107 piece 855 book 4 folio 29 page 10

    Address - Daybrook, Arnold, Basford, Nottinghamshire
    All born County of Nottinghamshire
    John Hallam, 27, occpn. F(rame) W(ork) K(nitter)
    Ellen Hallam, 27,
    Jane Hallam, 6
    William, 4
    "dyfal donc a dyr y garreg"

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    FMP baptisms (transcription)

    John Hallam, bap 9 Jul 1815, bap place Keyworth, Church St. Mary Magdalene, mother Elizabeth, no father recorded. The transcription includes "Note - illegitimate".

    John Hallam, 3 Apr 1816, bap place Costock, Church St. Giles, parents Henry and Ann, residence Costock. However, there is a 2nd transcription record for John Hallam, bap 3 April 1816 - it states "died 28 Feb 1825"
    "dyfal donc a dyr y garreg"

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    FMP Parish marriages (transcription)

    John Hallam and Ellen Welthdale, 24 Sep 1834, place Lambley, Nottinghamshire, Church Holy Trinity

    FMP baptism (transcription)
    Jane Hallam, bap 14 Dec 1834, bap place Arnold, Church St Mary, parents John and Ellen
    "dyfal donc a dyr y garreg"

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    FMP Parish burial (transcription)

    Ellen Hallam, bur. 8 May 1863, bur. place East Leake, Church St Mary the Virgin, age 47 (born c. 1816)

    The marriage at #16 above has the name Welthdale (transcription). Ellen gives PoB in 1861 as "St Mary Nottingham".

    FMP Baptisms (transcription)

    Ellen Wagdale, bap 8 Apr 1814, bap. place Nottingham, Church St Mary, parents George and Ellen, father's occpn. frame work knitter.

    Ellin Whelpdale, bap 1 Nov 1813, bap. place Blidworth, Church St. Mary of the Purification, parents William and Ann
    "dyfal donc a dyr y garreg"

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