Tracing Spanish ancestors from Philippines

[wallydoginoz]

Hi I am looking into my Blanco family history and all census records say that my great great grandad Emilio Blanco and his Uncle Pedro were Spaniards from the Philippine Islands. I would love to find a birth certificate for them and a place of birth. Family rumour was that they came from Seville but I don't have any documents that back this story up. The Father of Emilio and possibly the brother of Pedro - Francisco apparently owned Olive Groves ( another family rumour) and on Emilio's marriage certificate was listed as 'gentleman' as his occupation. Again no documents ever found as yet.
I am hoping someone can solve at least on of my brick walls.
Many thanks in advance. FX

[Pam Downes]

Never mind the olive groves, what we need are dates!

Census references would be good, too.

Pam

[christanel]

Is this your Emilio in the England 1891 census?
Green Lane, 4 North Leigh St(?)
Evington, Leicestershire, England
Emilio Blanco 39 Clicker Shoe trade Islands, Philippines
Emmeline Blanco 34 Hackney
Francisco Blanco 14 Clicker apprentice shoe trade Dalston London
Emmaline Lizzie Blanco 10 bristol
Edward Blanco 8 Leeds
Ada Blanco 2 Leicester

Emilio Blanco
Marriage Age: Full Age, Bill of Lading clerk.
Marriage Date: 9 July 1875
At Byrom Street, St Stephen, Lancashire, England
Father Francisco Blanco, Gentleman
Spouse Emmiline Squill full age
Father Charles Squill Provision dealer.

1901 RG13 Piece 2998 Folio 120 Page 8
68 Saviours? Rd east Leicester formerly north Evington
James Jarvis 45
Gertrude Jarvis 23
Eva Jarvis 21
Emma Jarvis 18
Emilio Blanco 45 Shoe Clicker Widower Phillip Islands
Emmeline Blanco 20 single no employment
Ada Blanco 12

That is all I can see in my hurried search on ancestry apart from some trees which don't have any other information.

Christina

[wallydoginoz]

Never mind the olive groves, what we need are dates!

Census references would be good, too.

Pam

Haha! Yes I believe he was born around 1852 although his age fluctuates a bit as the census goes on - I think he lied a bit about his age! Cheers

[wallydoginoz]

Hi Christina,
yes this is my Emilio (my great great grandfather) - any tips or any sites that I can search a birth certificate in the Philippines?
I've traced his whereabouts in England but am stuck at Emilio as far as dates go. I would love to know if Francisco (father of Emilio) was from Seville or also from the Philippines. Cheers.

[helachau]

Hi Christina,
yes this is my Emilio (my great great grandfather) - any tips or any sites that I can search a birth certificate in the Philippines?
I've traced his whereabouts in England but am stuck at Emilio as far as dates go. I would love to know if Francisco (father of Emilio) was from Seville or also from the Philippines. Cheers.

I did wonder if Francisco Blanco was the Francisco Blanco, Phillipine Spaniard, of the "Flowery Land pirates" notoriety. The 1864 trial was widely reported.

However, checking the Old Bailey on line data base it gives Francisco's age as 23 - which would rule him out, Emilio being born 1852 or thereabouts.

If you are interested you can check the trial here - https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/forms/formMain.jsp
Blanco in "Surname" returns 4 hits.

Or you can google "flowery land pirates" or similar.

[wallydoginoz]

Thanks Christina,

I have come across that before - but not sure a Pirate would be a 'Gentleman' as stated on the marriage cert!
Interesting to read though!
Cheers

[wallydoginoz]

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[Lesley Robertson]

I doubt whether anyone would write "pirate"on an official certificate. If he owned land, or dressed appropriately, the clerks would have accepted his description of himself.

BTW it can sometimes take days or weeks (or sometimes even years) for answers to come in - it all depends on who's online when. Right now, there's a lot of folk on spring breaks.

[wallydoginoz]

I doubt whether anyone would write "pirate"on an official certificate. If he owned land, or dressed appropriately, the clerks would have accepted his description of himself.

BTW it can sometimes take days or weeks (or sometimes even years) for answers to come in - it all depends on who's online when. Right now, there's a lot of folk on spring breaks.

Thanks Lesley. I was trying to maximise my views that may be lost in new posts.
I just wanted to know if there were any specific websites to find information. I have tried Family Search but to no avail.
Plus Francisco's age is too young to be my ancestor - although it would have been pretty exciting if this had been him!