Thread: Thomas Wells & Hannah Martin (m.30 Apr 1857)

Originally Posted by christanel

In 1841 Ruth's parents have a son John age 2 days with them. Hook Norton is in the Banbury registration district and John's birth is there with the mother's maiden name Martin on the GRO index.
They also have a Hannah garrett age 60 with them. John's mother?
There is no birth 1839+/- 2 years in the Banbury reg district for a Hannah Martin. The only birth reg for a Hannah Garrett is in Sept 1/4 1840 and has the mother's maiden name Robins.
Christina

Originally Posted by almach

Could Hannah have invented her father's name when she married, many people did, as presumably they were embarrassed to admit to illegitimacy.

There's this baptism, right age and place of birth.

Hook Norton, Feb 17th 1833, Hannah Martin dau of Mary a spinster.

As Ruth's mother is Mary, and Ruth's brother John, has mother's maiden name Martin, it is looking likely that Hannah's mother is also Ruth's mother.

What do you think, Christina?

Originally Posted by almach

As Ruth's mother is Mary, and Ruth's brother John, has mother's maiden name Martin, it is looking likely that Hannah's mother is also Ruth's mother.

What do you think, Christina?

Yes I am thinking that Hannah is the illegitimate dau of Mary Martin then her mother married John Garrett and Hannah appeared under his surname in the 1841 census. Then for some reason she took on her mother's maiden name of Martin between 1841 and 1851 and appears in the 1851 census as Hannah Martin servant of Hooks Norton.
Maybe she and her stepfather didn't get on or maybe she was told sometime between 1841 -1851 that he wasn't her birth father so she changed her name.
Why she gave her father's name as John Martin on the marriage could be as said earlier - to save face.

BUT the Hannah Garrett on the 1841 census is only 2 years old so born c1838/9 whereas the baptism we found gives her baptism as Feb 1833. So in 1841 she should be 7 or 8 which would match with the 1861 census age of 27
Christina

Originally Posted by christanel

Yes I am thinking that Hannah is the illegitimate dau of Mary Martin then her mother married John Garrett and Hannah appeared under his surname in the 1841 census. Then for some reason she took on her mother's maiden name of Martin between 1841 and 1851 and appears in the 1851 census as Hannah Martin servant of Hooks Norton.
Maybe she and her stepfather didn't get on or maybe she was told sometime between 1841 -1851 that he wasn't her birth father so she changed her name.
Why she gave her father's name as John Martin on the marriage could be as said earlier - to save face.

BUT the Hannah Garrett on the 1841 census is only 2 years old so born c1838/9 whereas the baptism we found gives her baptism as Feb 1833. So in 1841 she should be 7 or 8 which would match with the 1861 census age of 27
Christina

I am going to crawl in a corner and weep. This can't be the Hannah Garrett in the 1841 census because she is O years of age at her death in Dec 1/4 1851 Banbury registration district. There are plenty of deaths for Hannah Garretts but not in the right reg dist.

Take a look at Cyndi's List which has hundreds of links to both free and pay per view sites for many counties. On the home page click on 'Categories" on the left to choose your country.
Some free ones off the top of my head
Genuki
FreeBMD
FreeReg
FreeCen
familysearch.org

Christina