I can't currently locate a Francis/Frances Boas/Boaz/Doas/Doaz/Bose born circa 1873-1874. The surname for Rachel and for her daughter Francis b 1874 Islington as per the 1881 census with Nathaniel Salmon 23 York Street Southwark RG11 528 35 23 appears to read Boas but could be a letter 'D'for the start of the surname.
Any help tracking down the marriage of Rachel could be circa 1873 based on the age of Francis would be appreciated.
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25-10-2018, 1:54 PM #11
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Here is data on two of the children of Edward Solomon. The Borough Road address for the 1861 census matches that for Maria Solomon who married Judah Lee Simmonds in 1856- see the thread on the marriage and lines.
1861 (Copyright TNA) RG9 332 27 6
91 Borough Road Southwark Surrey
Rebecca JOSEPH H U 48? No occupation b Middlesex
Rose SOLOMON Niece u 40 no occupation b Surrey Southwark
John SOLOMON nephew u 36 no occupation b Surrey Southwark
Nb When Joseph Solomon solicitor died in 1860 he was at 92 Borough Road
1871 Census (Copyright TNA) RG10 611 25 2
27 Trinity Square St.Mary Newington London
Rosetta SOLOMON H U 52 Lodging House Keeper b London
John SOLOMON Brother U 42 no occupation b London *****John is recorded as an Imbecile from birth
+2 lodgers +1 servant
I will post more on the lines Nb- We already know about Maria and Isabella Solomon who married Judah Lee Simmonds.
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25-10-2018, 4:11 PM #13
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The 1901 Census shows Rosetta SOLOMON daughter of Edward Solomon living with her Simmonds/Lyons relatives (these are my Jacobs/Simmonds relatives through marriages as previously posted on on several threads).
1901 (Copyright TNA) RG13 1222 102 12
110 Brondesbury Villas Willesden Middx
Benjamin L SIMMONDS HM 44 Commercial Clerk b London Walworth
Rachel wife 41 b Kent Margate
Isabel P dau 9 b London Kilburn
Phoebe LYONS sister in law widow 75 b Southwark
ROSETTA SOLOMON aunt s 82 b Southwark
+1 boarder +1 servant
This maybe Rosetta's death Rosetta Solomon March qtr 1905 age 86 Hendon 3a 170 giving her a dob circa 1818-19
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25-10-2018, 5:51 PM #14
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Can confirm I've also been unable to find the marriage of Rachel salmon to Boas. The following birth record exists for daughter Frances:
SALMON, FRANCES ERNESTINE (Salmon is mother's maiden name) GRO Reference: 1873 J Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 359;
Mother Rachel did marry Walter John Stacy in May 1881 (described as a widow) using the maiden name of Salmon. Free BMD search: SALMON Rachel St. Saviour 1d 220 STACY Walter Scott St Saviour 1d 220
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25-10-2018, 7:00 PM #15
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In case I forgot- here are my threads on the Nathaniel Solomon-Phoebe De Metz and related lines which show how my lines married into the Solomon/Isaacs and others- see Benjamin Lee Simmonds -Rachael Lyons 28.2.2015; Lewis Isaacs-Catherine Solomon 18.12.2014 and updated post #4 29.12.2017.
The following data relates to Phoebe Solomon c 1826-1906- she married Edward Emmanuel Lyons b Canterbury Kent 1831-1875-
I think I posted on the lines in an earlier thread but here is Phoebe with relatives:
1881 (Copyright TNA) RG11 313 24 45
5 Victoria Park Road Hackney London
Isabella EMANUEL H widow 63 Dress maker b Middx
Martha dau u 24 Dress maker b Middx
Charlotte dau u 20 Dress maker b Middx
Fanny SOLOMONS niece u 30 Tailoress b Middx
Phoebe LYONS visitor widow 55 Housekeeper b Middx
1871 (Copyright TNA) RG10 415 7 8
1 Swan Yard Bishopsgate
Henry Emanuel H M 62 Commission Agent b Kent Deal
Isabella wife 53 Dress maker b Middx London
Emanuel son u 17 Bootmaker (apprentice) b Whitechapel
Michael son 12 scholar b Whitechapel
Phoebe dau u 18 Dress maker b Finsbury
Martha dau 14 Dress maker (apprentice) b Finsbury
Charlotte dau 10 scholar b Finsbury
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25-10-2018, 8:36 PM #16
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Regarding #14 am I right in thinking that Frances Salmon b 1873 was an illegitimate birth? Do you have a copy of the birth certificate?
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Re #14: I'm guessing the Frances Ernestine birth was illegitimate - it all points to that, although I'm lost for an explanation as to why invent a husband and his death for the purposes of a census record!?
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26-10-2018, 8:30 AM #18
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This post contains information on Saul Solomon 1817-1892 the Cape South Africa politician. His father was Joseph Solomon who was the son of Nathaniel Solomon and Phoebe De Metz and a brother of Edward Solomon. The post adds further data on the line.
The source of the information was an unnamed woman signed as A M who wrote a letter in 1895 to the Jewish Chronicle regarding Solomon and his relatives on St Helena.
In the letter( I have not included all of it) the writer refers to Saul Solomon of St Helena, the Gideon brothers, the Isaac and Moss and Britton all relatives and business partners.
"Saul Solomon, the well known Cape Politician, who was leader of the Conversative Party represented Cape Town for many years and several times declined the Premiership. His father was Joseph Solomon and his mother's maiden name was Hannah Moss daughter of Moses Moses-Reb Moshe a friend of the late Rev Solomon Herschel.
Saul and his brother Henry were sent to England when they were boys of six to eight years... and were educated at the school of Mr H N Solomon of Edmonton. But the whole family drifted from Judaism. He was named after his uncle Saul Solomon who went to St.Helena about 1806 and was joined about 75 years ago by his brother Joseph Solomon and Isaac Moss, who were the original partners in the firm of Solomon and Moss.
The firm was afterwards changed to Solomon, Gideon and Moss owing the amalgamation with the Gideon; the brothers Henry, James and George Gideon were long resident in the Island. George was a Captain in the Merchant Service. The brothers married daughters of officers and the whole family drifted entirely away from Judaism.....I am now a great grandmother 77 years of age and am here telling mostly what is within my own knowledge but for the earliest dates I am indebted to my father".
Jewish Chronicle May 3, 1895
Nb In the full letter the writer refers to Isaac Moss; Benjamin Moss; Nathaniel Isaac; Saul Isaac MP for Nottingham; George Britton and sister Sarah who married Isaac Moss
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26-10-2018, 11:42 AM #19
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Follow up to #14 of this thread- the Marriage of Rachel Salmon to William Scott Stacy in 1881:
Parish Church St John Walworth
May 16 1881
Walter Scott Stacy full age bachelor Stage Carpenter 78 Kingdale Street father Benjamin David Stacy Cheese Monger
Rachel SALMON full age Widow no occupation 23 York Street father Nathaniel Salmon Ticket writer
Witnesses Henry Richard Williams; Sarah Weeks?
Nb "Ticket writer - a sign painter who produced small coloured advertising cards or "tickets" that were dispalyed in shop windows announcing price of goods or special offers".
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The following records refer to Benjamin and Samuel Solomon two brothers and sons of Edward Solomon.The brothers were in partnership but this was dissolved in 1853:
1851 Census (Copyright TNA) HO107 1565 38 15
22 Great Union Street St.George Southwark Surrey
Benjamin Solomon u 31 Cigar Manufacturer b Surrey Southwark
Samuel Solomon u 29 Cigar Manufacturer b Surrey Southwark
The London Gazette 20 Dec 1853
Partnership Dissolved between Samuel Solomon and Benjamin Solomon 43 Borough Road Southwark Surrey Cigar dealers and importers under the style and firm of Solomon Brothers
The following record shows that Benjamin Solomon was in financial difficulties by 1854 or earlier and a Bankrupt:
The London Gazette 31 Oct 1854
Court for the Relief of Insolvent Debtors- Prisoners to appear before the Court
Benjamin Solomon formerly 22 Great Union Street Newington Causeway then of 43 Borough Road Southwark both in the County of Surrey and late of 55 Beargate Street Dover Kent Dealer in Jewelry, watches,clocks, wines and sundry merchandise
The following records all appear to be related to Benjamin Solomon and relate to his debts and bankruptcy:
The London Gazette August 9 1861
Benjamin Solomon 67 London Road Southwark Surrey Draper's Manager previously of the same place Draper and formerly 43 London Road Draper
The London Gazette Oct 30 1866
Benjamin Solomon formerly of 43 London Road Southwark Surrey General Draper then 67 London Road aforesaid Manager of a business of a general draper then of 7 Albert Terrace London Road aforesaid out of business and employ then of 4 Pilgrim Street Ludgate Hill in the City of London Warehouseman, Mantle Maker,General Manufacturer of Fancy Millinery and General Dealer now of 2 Wardrobe Place Carter Place Doctors Common City of London
Petra Laidlaw in the 1851 Anglo Jewry Census Data base JewishGen has a possible death for Benjamin:
Death Benjamin Solomon 15.2.1868 Aged 46 2 Wardrobe Place Doctors Common
This record appears in The Jewish Victorian. Genealogical Information from the Jewish Newspapers 1861-70 transcribed and edited by Doreen Berger 2004 Publisher Robert Boyd.
I have yet to research and identify what happened to Samuel Solomon or if Benjamin remained unmarried.
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