Help Confirming - Henry Norris

[Pam Downes]

I wonder if this is Alice's first marriage with her husbands surname misspelled or transcribed
On the same page FreeBMD
Alice Rigby and Thomas Bryan June 1/4 1861 registration district Prescot vol 8b page 829
Christina

Brilliant spot, Christina.
John - on Ancestry if you search 'BMDs including parish records' for a marriage for Alice Rigby in 1861, you'll be able to see the marriage certificate. Alice's father - Thomas, watchmaker.
Thomas' surname definitely spelt Bryan.

Pam

[jjb1986]

marriage of Thomas? is this what you have jjb?
Thomas Byron
Marital Status - Single
Age - 28
Birth Date - 1864
Marriage Date: 16 Feb 1892
Marriage Place: Prescot, Lancaster, England
Father - Thomas Byron
Spouse - Ann Mercer
FHL Film Number: 1657597
Reference ID: p246 cn492

I have this record:
Name: Alice Rigby
Gender: Female
Age: 19
Birth Year: abt 1842
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 14 Apr 1861
Parish: Sutton, Lancashire, England
Spouse: Thomas Bryan
Spouse Age: Full Age
Father: Thomas Rigby
Spouse Father: Rufus Bryan
Register Type: Parish Register

https://
search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=2576&h=18866761&ssrc=pt&tid=1 07250435&pid=290059744475&usePUB=true

I believe this is the right Alice, that later went on to marry my 3rd great grand father James Bushell.

P.S. Sorry if I am posting the wrong information you guys need

[Pam Downes]

I know this isn't concerned with the direct line back to Henry Norris, but Thomas Byron, husband of Alice Rigby, can be found in the 1861 census at RG9/2744 folio 115 page 34 living with father Robert a shoemaker which ties in with the details on Thomas' marriage certificate about a fortnight after the census.

Pam

[christanel]

Currently can't find Thomas Rigby in 1861 or 1841, and I have to disappear for a while.
Pam

I have been following Thomas and Elizabeth's children from the censuses to see if they show up in 1861 with Thomas and Elizabeth bit no luck so far. I did find this baptism and thought I would post it as it is in the England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970
Baptism
Sarah Rigby
Birth Date 5 Aug 1835
Father Thomas Rigby
Mother Elizabeth Rigby
Baptism Date 23 Aug 1835
Baptism Place Prescot, Lancashire
Denomination Presbyterian
Piece 1120 Prescot, Atherton Street Chapel (Presbyterian), 1776-1837

[Pam Downes]

John, please stop posting direct links to Ancestry as it is in breach of our T&Cs.
https://www.british-genealogy.com/te...conditions.php
Further links will be deleted.

Pam

[Pam Downes]

Ah, an important question to clarify, before we go any further.
Is Henry Norris an ancestor of Thomas Rigby, or of John Joseph Bushell?

Pam

[Sandyhall]

Yes I did notice this too, I read online that a lot of the names can have spelling errors. It does look like it's probably a spelling mistake

Not always a spelling mistake if someone had a very broad accent people wrote down what they heard said, so some times you get varied spellings

[christanel]

The name has been mistranscibed as Ribby but it is Rigby on the original image. I have put in a correction for Edward and there is already one there for Thomas,
Note that only in the 1841 census the enumerators were asked to take the age of anyone 15 years and older down to the next lowest 5 so Thomas and Elizabeth could be age 40 to 44 and William and Mary age 15 to 19. Of course the later censuses gave a more accurate age (mostly )

1841 HO107 Piece 516 Book 13 Folio 13 Page 18
Prescot Lancashire
Thomas Ribby 40 Mechanic/Machine? (can anyone read it?)
Elizabeth Ribby 40
William Ribby 15
Mary Ribby 15
Elizabeth Ribby 14
Thomas Ribby 12
John Ribby 10
Anne Ribby 8
Sarah Ribby 6
Robert Ribby 4
Edward Ribby 1

Christina

[Pam Downes]

Mechanic. With the dot of the i slightly off-centre.

I should add that was an excellent spot of the surname, Christina.

Pam

[christanel]

Possible birth reg for Edward age 1 in the 1841 census
Edward Rigby Dec 1/4 1839 reg district Prescott vol 20 page 677 mother's maiden name Taylor.

Possible marriage for Thomas and Elizabeth on Lancashire OPC with another version of Thomas' surname

Marriage - 31 May 1820 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Thomas Rigley - Watch Maker, the Parish of Liverpool
Elizabeth Taylor - Spinster, same Parish
Witnesses - James Taylor and Ann Taylor, (X)
Married by Banns by: T. H. Heathcote, Curate
Register: Marriages 1820 - 1821, Page 42, Entry 125
Source: LDS Film 93917

I know it is in Liverpool and says 'of this parish' but that is only an indication that they were living there at the time. Also it does give Thomas' occupation as watchmaker.
Christina