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    The article is dated 1907 and the child was "newly born". I doubt that it is the same Martha RHODES as she would have been aged 30.

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    WOW! There is a lot more to this than I ever imagined. I agree that the Liverpool links are unrelated as I can find no other family connection to that area.

    Thank you all for your efforts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dundee10 View Post
    The article is dated 1907 and the child was "newly born". I doubt that it is the same Martha RHODES as she would have been aged 30.
    I have the Birth reg. and the Death reg. Also 1901 Census.
    04 Nov 1900. Baptism Place Wooburn, Buckingham, England.

    Just because the article was not published in 1901 proves nothing May be she was not brought to court right away after the death of her son.

    1901 England Census Cecil Jas Rhodes Age 6/12
    Estimated Birth Year abt 1900
    Relation to Head Son
    FatherJames Rhodes
    Mother Martha H Rhodes
    Birth Place
    Wooburn, Buckinghamshire, England
    Civil parish Wooburn
    Wooburn, Buckinghamshire, England
    Ecclesiastical parish Wooburn St Paul
    Town Cores End
    County/Island Buckinghamshire
    Country England
    Registration district Wycombe
    Sub-registration district Marlow
    ED, institution, or vessel 12, Piece 1351, Folio 145, Page number 36
    Household schedule number 205

    James Rhodes Age 24

    Martha H Rhodes Age 23

    Lilian F Rhodes Age 1

    Cecil Jas Rhodes Age 6/12

    Nellie Baldurin Age 13 Sister in law

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    Quote Originally Posted by christanel View Post
    11 July 1922 - Sheffield Daily Telegraph -
    Christanel can you give us information where you found this which site is it on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandyhall View Post
    Christanel can you give us information where you found this which site is it on
    Christina is hopefully in the land of nod at the moment, and although I can't say where she found it I know that it's available on the British Newspaper Archive and FMP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dundee10 View Post
    The article is dated 1907 and the child was "newly born". I doubt that it is the same Martha RHODES as she would have been aged 30.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sandyhall View Post
    I have the Birth reg. and the Death reg. Also 1901 Census.
    04 Nov 1900. Baptism Place Wooburn, Buckingham, England.

    Just because the article was not published in 1901 proves nothing May be she was not brought to court right away after the death of her son.

    1901 England Census Cecil Jas Rhodes Age 6/12
    Estimated Birth Year abt 1900
    Relation to Head Son
    FatherJames Rhodes
    Mother Martha H Rhodes
    Birth Place
    Wooburn, Buckinghamshire, England
    Civil parish Wooburn
    Wooburn, Buckinghamshire, England
    Ecclesiastical parish Wooburn St Paul
    Town Cores End
    County/Island Buckinghamshire
    Country England
    Registration district Wycombe
    Sub-registration district Marlow
    ED, institution, or vessel 12, Piece 1351, Folio 145, Page number 36
    Household schedule number 205

    James Rhodes Age 24

    Martha H Rhodes Age 23

    Lilian F Rhodes Age 1

    Cecil Jas Rhodes Age 6/12

    Nellie Baldurin Age 13 Sister in law
    Sorry, Sandyhall, but I have to agree with Dundee10 that the 'newly born child' is not Cecil James Rhodes who must have been at least six months old when his death was registered in June quarter 1901 (Uxbridge registration district).

    However, I do partly agree with the bit in bold, in so far as you have to be aware that people are not necessarily charged with a crime immediately after the crime was committed. But in this case a specific date was given (15th of October) and I'm sure that if it had been in an earlier year it would have also said the year.

    GRO Historical Births Index has a Male Rhodes, December quarter 1907, Preston registration district, no mother's maiden name.
    There is also a death registration for a Male Rhodes, December quarter 1907, Preston registration district, age less than a year, and I would assume they refer to Martha's child.


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