Results 1 to 7 of 7
  1. #1
    ElizabethNield
    Guest

    Default Hannah Lea(h) 1861 census?

    Hannah Lea, daughter of John Henry Lea and Martha Taylor, was born in Stockport, Cheshire, England in 1844. She's on the 1851 census with her family, and on the 1871 census with her husband Robert Nield and his family. But 1861 I can't find her. I've looked everywhere. Please help!

  2. #2
    Famous for offering help & advice gortonboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Chorlton cum Hardy
    Posts
    1,044

    Default

    1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
    Back Inn Farm House, Mill Bank, Marton, Macclesfield, Cheshire, England

    Peter Lawson Head Married Male 31 1830 Farmer Of 94 Acres 2 Lab Martin, Cheshire, England
    Ellen Lawson Wife Married Female 25 1836 Farmers Wife Martin, Cheshire, England
    Sarah A Lawson Daughter - Female 5 1856 Farmers Daughter Martin, Cheshire, England
    Samuel Lawson Son - Male 3 1858 - Moston, Cheshire, England
    William Lawson Son - Male 1 1860 - Moston, Cheshire, England
    Hannah Lea Servant Unmarried Female 16 1845 General Servant Stockport, Cheshire, England
    Sarah A Goodwin Servant Unmarried Female 14 1847 General Servant Bosley, Cheshire, England
    Hugh Cliff Servant Unmarried Male 22 1839 Farm Servant Cheshire, England
    Joseph Barnes Servant Unmarried Male 11 1850 Farm Servant Marton, Cheshire, England
    James Lewis Servant Unmarried Male 11 1850 Farm Servant Congleton, Cheshire, England
    Gortonboy. Mike.

  3. #3
    ElizabethNield
    Guest

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by gortonboy View Post
    1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
    Back Inn Farm House, Mill Bank, Marton, Macclesfield, Cheshire, England

    Peter Lawson Head Married Male 31 1830 Farmer Of 94 Acres 2 Lab Martin, Cheshire, England
    Ellen Lawson Wife Married Female 25 1836 Farmers Wife Martin, Cheshire, England
    Sarah A Lawson Daughter - Female 5 1856 Farmers Daughter Martin, Cheshire, England
    Samuel Lawson Son - Male 3 1858 - Moston, Cheshire, England
    William Lawson Son - Male 1 1860 - Moston, Cheshire, England
    Hannah Lea Servant Unmarried Female 16 1845 General Servant Stockport, Cheshire, England
    Sarah A Goodwin Servant Unmarried Female 14 1847 General Servant Bosley, Cheshire, England
    Hugh Cliff Servant Unmarried Male 22 1839 Farm Servant Cheshire, England
    Joseph Barnes Servant Unmarried Male 11 1850 Farm Servant Marton, Cheshire, England
    James Lewis Servant Unmarried Male 11 1850 Farm Servant Congleton, Cheshire, England
    Wow, thank you!! That's amazing - what a lot of servants the Lawsons had...So Hannah was 16 and a "general servant"? Can anyone tell me what exactly that would mean? I'm wondering where the Lawsons would have got servants like Hannah, it's not like they could go on the internet and look! How far was (is?) Marton from Stockport?

  4. #4
    Settling in
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Location
    West Yorkshire
    Posts
    16

    Default

    Farmers were relatively rich in those days and general servant would probably have been a house servant, rather than a dairy maid or similar. The "farm servants" would have been `Ag Labs' who actually lived with the family - milking or ploughing etc. And 94 acres is a fairly substantial farm The farm servants probably earned peanuts because they got accommodation. Actually the 11 year olds probably just got to be grateful to be fed. Their parents probably let them go to be "farm servants" because they couldn't afford to feed them themselves. The younger girl servant probably helped with the babies.

  5. #5
    ElizabethNield
    Guest

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Suekilp View Post
    Farmers were relatively rich in those days and general servant would probably have been a house servant, rather than a dairy maid or similar. The "farm servants" would have been `Ag Labs' who actually lived with the family - milking or ploughing etc. And 94 acres is a fairly substantial farm The farm servants probably earned peanuts because they got accommodation. Actually the 11 year olds probably just got to be grateful to be fed. Their parents probably let them go to be "farm servants" because they couldn't afford to feed them themselves. The younger girl servant probably helped with the babies.
    That's amazing - and sad, for the 11 year olds. Would 16 year old Hannah have been sent because her parents couldn't afford to feed her as well? I hope that she and the younger girl, Sarah Goodwin, were able to be friends. It seems like they'd want the company, away from home like that...

  6. #6
    Settling in
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Location
    West Yorkshire
    Posts
    16

    Default

    I think in the mid 1800s that once they passed toddlerhood kids from very poor families were pretty much expected to be able to either work towards the family income or leave so they weren't a drain on it. My ancestors were predominantly urban, and in the early 1800s worked in the mill from the age of four until after the Factories Acts which allowed them to start at a later age, be half-timers (working half the day in the mill and spending the other half at school) and get an education. Thinking about it Hannah and Sarah probably did have some farm duties so would have had to get up at the crack of dawn, empty last night's ashes, black the fire grates, light fires, heat water for people to get washed, make breakfast and a lunchtime snack for the menfolk (including the 11 year olds) and the rest of the family, collect eggs, milk cows, clean the house, do the laundry, churn the butter, make the cheese, help with the children, cook the main meals etc. etc. I think it was a hard life, but yes, hopefully the servants got some friendship and support from each other.

  7. #7
    Settling in
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Location
    West Yorkshire
    Posts
    16

    Default

    They probably got one day or half-day a month off to visit their families (or go courting )

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Select a file: