OMG - that is my Uncle Fred - his discharge certificate says 14th October 1917. Thank you so much for telling me this as I couldn't find out when he went to war. I can google but what are the medals you mention? Are they the standard three?
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19-05-2018, 10:53 PM #11
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20-05-2018, 4:47 AM #12
From Wikipedia
The 1914–15 Star is a campaign medal of the British Empire which was awarded to officers and men of British and Imperial forces who served in any theatre of the First World War against the Central European Powers during 1914 and 1915. The medal was never awarded singly and recipients were also awarded the British War Medal and Victory Medal
The British War Medal is a campaign medal of the United Kingdom which was awarded to officers and men of British and Imperial forces for service in the First World War. Two versions of the medal were produced. About 6.5 million were struck in silver and 110,000 were struck in bronze, the latter for award to Chinese, Maltese and Indian Labour Corps.
The Victory Medal was issued to all those who received the 1914 Star or the 1914–15 Star, and to most of those who were awarded the British War Medal - it was not awarded singly. These three medals were sometimes irreverently referred to as Pip, Squeak and Wilfred.
The Silver War Badge was issued in the United Kingdom and the British Empire to service personnel who had been honourably discharged due to wounds or sickness from military service in World War I.
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20-05-2018, 7:29 AM #13
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Many thanks. I do have his Pip, Squeak and Wilfred (pure coincidence that my user name matches the medals!), but I haven't come across his Silver War Badge so that may be lost forever.
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20-05-2018, 10:48 AM #14
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20-05-2018, 11:01 AM #16
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Thank you again Christina. I am really trying to get my head around all the lovely facts you have uncovered for me. I am new to this game so please excuse my ignorance - are you saying that Harry and Henry are the same person (the dates look right for that to be the case)? And is there a reliable way to organise this data (so I can follow it!)?
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20-05-2018, 12:06 PM #17
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The Western Front Association have the pension files for men who were entitled to war pensions from WW1 – basically the MOD were going to destroy them and they rescued them. However, whilst they used to undertake manual searches for people, this has become too onerous for them, and they have now done a deal with Ancestry who are in the process of scanning them. https://www.westernfrontassociation.c...s-is-underway/
Based on Ancestry other policies, it probably means that they will end up in their Fold 3 collection. However, it is potentially a good source of information about your uncle Fred.
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20-05-2018, 12:58 PM #18
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Well, I have just mapped the information out and I kind of follow, but I am still confused where the Cross family come in and where it says nephew and brother-in-law so if anyone can help me understand that I would be very grateful. Many thanks in advance.
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You mentioned Fred’s wife Alice and her family in your first post. Based on location, and her father’s age, I am pretty certain that this is them in the 1911 Census:
6 Bloomfontien Villas, Wycombe Marsh, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
First name(s) Last name Relation-ship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Alfred Hudson Head Married Male 48 1863 Hants Laverstock Labourer
Alice Hudson Wife Married Female 50 1861 Bucks High Wycombe -
Emma Hudson Daughter Single Female 26 1885 Bucks High Wycombe Overlooker
Alfred Hudson Son Single Male 24 1887 Bucks High Wycombe Labourer
George Hudson Son Single Male 18 1893 Bucks High Wycombe French Polisher
Alice Hudson Daughter Single Female 16 1895 Bucks High Wycombe Millhand Striper
Lily Hudson Daughter - Female 13 1898 Bucks High Wycombe School
William Hudson Son - Male 11 1900 Bucks High Wycombe School
James Stevens Grandfather Widower Male 83 1828 Bucks High Wycombe Old Age Pensioner
They had had a total of 7 children and had been married for 26 years.
Alice Beatrice Hudson’s birth was registered in the March quarter of 1895 in Wycombe Volume 03A Page 748, maiden name Stevens.
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20-05-2018, 1:18 PM #20
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Thank you so much for this. Yes, I believe that is my Aunt Alice's family as I I believe she was born in 1895, Wycombe Marsh is where my dad was evacuated to, and Alfred Hudson is the one that died in the mental hospital in Stone in 1925. Now I have a lot more information to digest!
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