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    Marriages Mar 1858, Abergavenny 11a 97. Benjamin Howells/Elizabeth Evans.
    The marriage was at Rhymney, Monmouthshire, 1st Mar 1858. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCTT-XZR

    The parish record is on find my past but I can't post the full details owing to FMP's T&C's.
    Alma

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    1881, RG11; Piece: 4899; Folio: 26; Page: 47. 4, Bell St, Stockton - on - Tees
    Benjamin Howells 43, puddler, Newport
    Elizabeth Howells 40, Newport
    Benjamin Howells 18, Middlesbro
    Thomas Howells 16, Middlesbro
    Margaret Howells 14, Stockton
    Catherine Howells 11, Stockton
    William Howells 9, Stockton
    Martha Howells 6, Stockton
    Elizabeth A. Howells 4, Stockton
    Alfred Howells 2, Stockton

    1891, 4, Bell St, Piece: 4048, Folio: 91
    Benjamine Howells 53, labourer iron works, South Wales
    Elizabeth Howells 50, South Wales
    Catherine Howells 21
    William Howells 19
    Martha Howells 16
    Elizabeth Ann Howells 14
    Alfred Howells 12
    Edward Lloyd 23, lodger, Ruabon, N. Wales
    Alma

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    In 1901 Benjamin is at 47, Hampton Rd, Stockton, now widowed he's with his children Catherine, William, Martha, Elizabeth and Alfred.

    1911, 41, Hampton Rd, Stockton, has Benjamin and Catherine, William and Martha, he says he's had 11 children and 7 are still alive.
    Alma

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    Quote Originally Posted by almach View Post
    1851, Bedwelty. HO107; Piece: 2448; Folio: 665; Page: 5;
    John Howells 67, baller (iron), Neath Glamorgan
    Anne Howells 49, Merthyr
    Thomas Howells 19, France
    Benjamin Howells 16, Newport
    Gwenny Davis 19, step dau, Beaufort
    Margaret Davies 18, step dau, Talgarth, Breconshire
    Quote Originally Posted by almach View Post
    A maybe

    1841, Bedwelty. HO107; Piece: 750; Book: 8; Folio: 18; Page: 2
    Jno Howell 45, fireman, not born Monmouthshire
    Mary Howell 45, not born Monmouthshire
    Jno Howell 15, not born Monmouthshire
    Josh Howell 15, not born Monmouthshire
    Ann Howell 15, born Monmouthshire
    Mary Howell 10, born Monmouthshire
    Thos Howell 5, born Monmouthshire
    Benn Howell 5, born Monmouthshire
    After re-checking, these two census do appear to be the same Howells (despite the discrepancy in ages). Both 1841 and 51 are in the hamlet of Mamhole Tredegar and the same Williams family are next door in both censuses. So, Benjamin's mother is Mary who must have died 1841 - 1851,
    Alma

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    Benjamin and Elizabeth's son, John, born abt. 1858, Tredegar emigrated to the US.

    His passport application, with photo, is on Ancestry.

    John's death cert is also on Ancestry: died Mt Oliver Alleghany, July 3rd 1935.
    Widowed, wife Sarah Davis Howells. John's DOB May 8th 1858. A retired stationary engineer.
    Father Benjamin born Wales, mother Elizabeth Evans born Wales.
    Cause of death: cerebral haemorrhage, secondary: general arterio sclerosis.
    Place of burial: South Side Cemetery
    Alma

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    John is still in England in 1881 with wife Sarah, they're in Stockton, Sarah is 21, born Middlesbro, John 22 a puddler, Wales.

    1900, Pittsburgh Ward 27, Allegheny, PennsylvaniA
    Immigration year 1887.
    John Howells 42, married 20yrs, Wales
    Sarah Howells 40, England
    Alfred Howells 18, England
    Maggie Howells 16, England
    Elezabeth Howells 11, England
    Edna Howells 9, Pennsylvania
    Sarah Howells 7, Pennsylvania
    Ernest Howells 5, Pennsylvania
    Emily Howells 3, Pennsylvania
    Alma

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    Name: William Howells
    Death Date: 19 Aug 1916, Age: 27
    Cemetery: Chatham Naval Memorial 1916
    Father: Benjamin Howells
    Mother: Margaret Howells
    Regiment: Royal Naval Reserve
    Regimental Number: 6963
    Ship Name: Falmouth

    https://www.
    wrecksite.eu/peopleView.aspx?36625[/url]
    Alma

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuntersMoon View Post
    Thanks so far.
    Btw, any idea why Ben would move from well Wales to Durham? I understand work but seems a bit of a hike with family in tow.
    Huge numbers of people moved to Middlesbrough & surrounding areas in the 1860's/70's following the discovery in 1850 of large ironstone deposits in the Cleveland Hills. Henry Bolckow and John Vaughan were instrumental in developing the town of Middlesbrough and the Iron & Steel industry in the area. Although Middlesbrough is (was) in Yorkshire & Stockton is (was) in Durham, they are geographically very close - only separated by the river tees. Stockton also had a large Iron & Steel Making industry, mainly centred around the Portrack area.

    As the iron & steel industry began to develop, skilled workers would have been in demand, and puddling was a skill that took years to learn. Ben would therefore have seen moving to the area as an opportunity for him & his family.

    My family also moved from Wales to Stockton, where my GG Grandfather also worked at Portrack as an Iron Puddler.

    In 1871 Ben was living at Hill Street East - which was just off Portrack Lane - and if this link works you should be able to see it just next to the Workhouse, although this map is from the 1890's.

    https://maps.nls.uk/view/101100488#z...7621&layers=BT

    Bell Street was a better area, and by 1901 he was in Hampton Road in the Oxbridge area of Stockton - another 'upwards' move. Again, if this link works you should see it just above Ropner Park.

    https://maps.nls.uk/view/101100488#z...5216&layers=BT

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    You might also like this photo of Benjamin's grandchildren:

    https://picturestocktonarchive.wordp...-brothers-ww1/

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    Benjamin and Elizabeth's headstone. https://
    billiongraves.com/grave/Benjamin-Howells/24829305
    Alma

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