Patruck Murray - ASC & Irish National Army?

[Paddy1957]

Hi all.

This is my first post. Trying to work out something (anything) about my long lost grandfather Patrick MURRAY. Born in Dublin some time between 1882 and 1889 (I think). I have his British Army records (Reg No: T/I 2424) and they indicate that he joined the British Army in 1914 but was discharged in 1915 due to his poor eyesight (he was a driver in Army Service Corps).

I've just obtained his Irish National Army records (Reg No: 46648) and there's an anomaly which I can't work out. He joined in 1923 and was discharged in 1924, due to problems with his teeth. His medical record also indicates that he has a head wound (or perhaps hand wound - the records are difficult to decipher in some sections), which was incurred in 1916 - possibly in France (once again, difficult to read this bit).

So, if he was discharged from the Army in 1915, how he got injured in 1916 is something of a puzzle. Could he have re-enlisted? I can't find any military records for him beyond those mentioned above.
I also have no current means of confirming his birth or death dates - but the search continues.

Any suggestions would be very gratefully received.

Many thanks

[paddyfields]

Do you know the name of "Patrick Murray's" parents? There are 18 "Patrick Murray's" registered born in Dublin between 1882 and 1889

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy....&submit=Search

[christanel]

The only pension service records I can find on ancestry for a Patrick Murray born Ireland in the ASC who was discharged in Feb 1915 with bad eyesight has the service number 9652. I cab see the number you give above the service number but I don't know what it refers to.
You have the name of his wife and his children from these records so if you want to go further back you need to find his marriage record to Francis Mary Talbot (?) on 19 October 1907.
Christina

[christanel]

On Irish Genealogy
Patrick Murray wed Frances Talbot 11 October 1907
Group registration ID 2060971 Registration area - Dublin South
How to order a certificate is explained here

Christina

[christanel]

1911 census
Summerhil Mountjoy Dublin
Patrick Murray 27 Brush maker can read and write RC
Francis Murray 27 can read and write RC
John Michael Murray 3 RC
Patrick Gerard Murray 2 months RC
Elizabeth Talbot 58 M=in=L can read and write C of E
All born Dublin City

Christina

[Paddy1957]

Do you know the name of "Patrick Murray's" parents? There are 18 "Patrick Murray's" registered born in Dublin between 1882 and 1889

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy....&submit=Search

Hi Paddyfields

I know that his father was William Murray. I think his mother was Mary - Maiden name unknown.
Regards and thanks

[Paddy1957]

Thanks Christanel - I have this information :-)

[Paddy1957]

Thanks again Christina - I have that information

[Paddy1957]

The only pension service records I can find on ancestry for a Patrick Murray born Ireland in the ASC who was discharged in Feb 1915 with bad eyesight has the service number 9652. I cab see the number you give above the service number but I don't know what it refers to.
You have the name of his wife and his children from these records so if you want to go further back you need to find his marriage record to Francis Mary Talbot (?) on 19 October 1907.
Christina

Thanks Christina - The number I quoted is Patrick's Regimental number. I've traced his marriage record and I've found reference to him in the 1901 and 1911 census records.

I'm trying to work out why/how he would have incurred a head injury in 1916 (possibly in France) when he'd already been discharged from the British Army - in 1915.

If he'd somehow re-enlisted, I can't find any record of his subsequent service in the Army.