Jaffa GOODMAN/Goodman JAFFA - Leeds, WW1

[fullscott]

A few pages mis-filed in the WW1 Service Records (WO 363) for a man referred to as Jaffa GOODMAN, but his wife signs E JAFFA:

Home address: Regent Street, Leeds.
Wife: ETTY JAFFA. At least 2 children.

Attested 21 July 1915 - Kings Royal Rifles, Regt No: 14667.
On trial in early 1916 (for attacking a fellow serviceman?).
Killed in action August 1916.

Anc****y, CLA, pages 192063-192074

[elsinore]

Commonwealth War Graves entry:

Rifleman JAFFER, Goodman
Service No: R/14667
Died 20/08/1916
Age 35
20th Battalion King's Royal Rifle Corps
Son of the late Eli and Leah JAFFER, husband of Gertie JAFFER of 9 Imperial Street, Leylands, Leeds.
Commemorated on the Thiepval Memorial.

Note the first name differences.

He also appears in the Medal and Award Rolls as Gordman JAFFER. All other details as above.

I haven't been able to find Goodman JAFFER on any census, nor a birth or marriage.

For reference, this may be the JAFFA family in 1911:

1911 Census at 7 Cambridge Street, Leeds. Married 22 years, 7 children.
Isaac JAFFA head 45 Tailor baster, b. near Moscow, Russia
Leah wife 43 b. near Moscow, Russia
Ettie dau 21 Tailoress feller, b. Leeds
Eshter dau 18 Tailoress feller, b. Leeds
Gerty dau 16 Tailoress vest parer. b. Leeds
Rachel dau 13 Trousers finisher b. Leeds
Rebecca dau 11 Scholar, b. Leeds
Abram son 9, b. Leeds
Miriam dau 6, b. Leeds

Peter

[elsinore]

More confusion!

London Jews in the First World War has Goodman JAFFER born Liverpool 1881, with his home address in 1911 as 19 Cloth Street, Leeds.

1911 Census for 19 Cloth Street, Leeds
Isaac GOLDBERG 75 Tailor's presser, born Russia
Tilly GOLDBERG wife 75 , born Russia.
Married 55 years, no children.

Peter

[almach]

Goodman Jaffer, enlisted Leeds, birth place LIVERPOOL.

Sorry, Peter, I didn't see your post before I posted.

[almach]

1911, 53 Busfield St Leeds. RG14; Piece: 26947; RD 500; ED 4.
Goodman Jaffah 36, tailor's presser, Russia
Rochel Jaffah 33, Russia
Leah Jaffah 8, Leeds
Ada Jaffah 5, Leeds
Jacob Jaffah 1, Leeds
Barnet Jaffah 1, Leeds

[almach]

I'm totally confused now.

Ada and Leah seem to have been registered with mother's maiden name Gabronsky, but Jacob and Barnet with MMN Milker

And, I'm not even sure the 1911 is the right folks.

[elsinore]

Goodman Jaffer, enlisted Leeds, birth place LIVERPOOL.

Sorry, Peter, I didn't see your post before I posted.

No problem, Alma.

I can't add anything useful to this thread. I've been coming back to it, on and off, all day and I haven't found anything constructive. Over to you.

Perhaps Jane will come across some more misfiled papers one day and all will be revealed!

Peter

[phillip]

See British Jewry Leeds Data Base for Jacob Jaffer 1901 who is at 31 Bousfield Street Leeds RG13 4221 2 33. I noted the reference to Goodman Jaffah at 53 Busfield Street Leeds in 1911 census # 5. Sherry Landa has put details of the father of Jacob Jaffer who is named as Harris YAFFY.
There is also a Harris YAFFE in the 1911 census living in Liverpool and he names his parents as Harris Yaffe and Esther Beatrice Yaffe. His naturalisation record HO 334 40-1905.
1911 Census ( Crown Copyright,TNA) RG14 22200
34 St George Street Liverpool Lancs
Harris Yaffe H M 38 Tailoring maker employer b Russia (Resident)
Rachel wife 39 b Russia (Resident) married 19 years 6 children 1 dead
Barnett son 17 s tailoring maker b Lancs Liverpool
Florrie dau 11 b Lancs Liverpool
Esther dau 9 b Lancs Liverpool
Rebecca dau 1 b Lancs Liverpool

Whether or not these families relate to Goodman requires confirming. It is usual Ashkenazi naming practice for a relative to be named after a dead relative (as in the case of Harris first name) and the first and last names can often bear no relationship to the original names particularly those Eastern European Jews as my own relatives names have confirmed over many years of research. Jaffer can be Yaffe/Jaffe and other derivations - see JewishGen Data bases for the various name derivations

The Jewish Chronicle Feb 4 1916 has the Death Memorial Notice for Goodman:
Rifleman Goodman Jaffer K R R

I will look further in Jewish Records.

Phillip

[elsinore]

Whether or not these families relate to Goodman requires confirming. It is usual Ashkenazi naming practice for a relative to be named after a dead relative (as in the case of Harris first name) and the first and last names can often bear no relationship to the original names particularly those Eastern European Jews as my own relatives names have confirmed over many years of research. Jaffer can be Yaffe/Jaffe and other derivations - see JewishGen Data bases for the various name derivations

An example of what Phillip means!

When I posted details of the JAFFA family in #2, it was in the belief that it would be connected to Goodman. In the process, I searched for birth records for the seven siblings. The results highlight just how much names can vary. Surnames in brackets are as they appear in the GRO index.

Ettie (Yoffin) 1890 J Qtr Leeds 9B 452 mmn Sepskin
Esther (Saffer) 1892 J Qtr Leeds 9B 460 mmn Levin
or (Yaffey) 1892 J Qtr Leeds 9B 461 mmn Yepsky
Gerty (Yaffe) 1894 J Qtr Leeds 9B 439 mmn Lepskin
Rachel (Jaffer) 1897 S Qtr Leeds 9B 455 mmn Lepski
Rebecca (Jaffe) 1899 D Qtr Leeds 9B 461 mmn Lepski
Abram (Jaffe) 1902 J Qtr Leeds 9B 466 mmn Lepskin
Miriam (Jaffe) 1905 S Qtr Leeds 9B 440 mmn Levi

Peter

[phillip]

Here are some Yaffe newspaper articles from the Jewish Chronicle which focus on Yaffe in Liverpool. I am looking at derivations of names but it is also important to note that many Jews changed their last names either by deed poll or for numbers of other reasons much later in time. For example, some of my distant relatives who had lived in the UK for many years decided to drop any foreign or Jewish sounding names and took on totally different last names. This makes it difficult to trace them without a great deal of research.

Bernstein- On the 5th May 44 Vine St Liverpool Chaiva Faige widow of the late Morris Bernstein..son Jacob and daughter in law Rachel Bernstein 147 Peel Road Bootle, daughter Esther YAFFE and son in law Isaac YAFFE 44 Vine Street Liverpool , and grandchildren. Friday May 16 1930 Jewish Chronicle.

You will note the use of Hebrew first names for the widow of Morris Bernstein. This is again a common practice and Synagogue Scribes records shows both the Anglicised and Hebrew names of thousands of individuals. For example, one of my 3x great grandfathers was Henry born Tsevi son of Baruch. John was originally Jacob as another example.

See also Jewish Chronicle same date Jan 17 1930 Abraham YAFFE Liverpool property developer involved in a court case and the theft of property from Harris YAFFE tailor South Castle Street Liverpool.

As per #9 the last names can be numerous derivations so I am looking at many variations.

Phillip