I have been looking at one of my family lines and trying to fill in a few gaps, but its difficult with a name like Thomas Evans - there's a lot of them about.
That's one complication, but its just been compounded by a conversation that I have just had with the GRO in Southport.
Last month I ordered two death certificates on the basis that I did not know the GRO references, but I did know the approx. year of death, either 1892 or 1898; based on looking at the death indices and likely ages, but I did not want to specify his age because that had jumped around a bit in the various censuses. So instead I thought as I haven't found a record of an accident or an inquest, I will take a guess that he died at home, and specified his home address as the place of death.
Today I received one certificate based on the 1898 search for an entirely different location, some 15 miles away, and when I spoke to the GRO the attitude, was we don't take much notice of that information you specified, because we don't really understand places in Wales , and anyway the occupation you specified matched!!
I suspect that there were dozens of Thomas Evans who were slate quarrymen in North Wales at that time!
When I queried what's the point of having a box specifying the place of death if they are going to ignore it, all I could get were comments like, people die away from home, and it's in Wales.
I now have to wait whilst they review whether or not I will get a refund, but if I do I will have to return the dud certificate............
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09-03-2018, 1:53 PM #1
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Looking for a place in Wales - watch out!
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09-03-2018, 5:07 PM #2
Duw! mae geiriau'n methu â mi....
Sue Mackay
Insanity is hereditary - you get it from your kids
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10-03-2018, 8:30 AM #3
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'Dw i'n cytuno!
"dyfal donc a dyr y garreg"
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10-03-2018, 9:15 AM #4
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I don't understand why you specified the occupation if that was of much less significance than the place of death. Why didn't you specify the place of death only?
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10-03-2018, 9:28 AM #5
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You might have had better luck trying directly from the relevant register office. I was recently seeking a birth certificate in Wales - I knew the likely town but the year of birth was within a 2-year range and I wasn't certain of the parents either (she was never with them in a census - turns out they both died before she was two). Despite this they came up with the correct certificate. OK it cost £10, but it was worth it, and so quick too.
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10-03-2018, 9:35 AM #6
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10-03-2018, 9:38 AM #7
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12-03-2018, 9:21 PM #8
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I thought people might like to hear the follow up to this sorry saga:
1. The second possible certificate that I had ordered has now been refunded - below is the reason why; you'll notice there is no mention of the occupation, which was on the request ...
2. With regards to the first one which was the subject of my original post I received the email today - its seems a telephone conversation is not enough, but of course I have yet to received the "pre-paid" envelope".
I have no problem with them not finding the certificate it's the inconsistency of approach I cannot agree with.
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12-03-2018, 11:23 PM #9
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Different 'agents' as they call their staff....different ideas!
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16-06-2018, 3:18 AM #10
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[QUOTE=Megan Roberts;657908]I have been looking at one of my family lines and trying to fill in a few gaps, but its difficult with a name like Thomas Evans - there's a lot of them about.
That's one complication, but its just been compounded by a conversation that I have just had with the GRO in Southport.
Last month I ordered two death certificates on the basis that I did not know the GRO references, but I did know the approx. year of death, either 1892 or 1898; based on looking at the death indices and likely ages, but I did not want to specify his age because that had jumped around a bit in the various censuses. So instead I thought as I haven't found a record of an accident or an inquest, I will take a guess that he died at home, and specified his home address as the place of death.
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