I have had John Sage's (born West Harptree 12 Aug 1843) listed as Richard Sage (born 11 June 1815
Pensford) for quite awhile. However, a relative in Wales has sent a marriage entry for John Sage and Jane Fricker showing his father as William Sage. Although I have tried I only show William as a brother of John born in West Harptree 7 January 1846. Is it possible that Williams signed the registry as John's father. All other data for John checks out as to children and relatives. Thank you for any help.
Carol-Ann Sage
Spanaway, Washington USA
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18-02-2018, 12:48 AM #1bsage760Guest
Father of John Sage born West Harptree
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18-02-2018, 1:41 AM #2
Do you have John's birth certificate which will include his father's name?There may be two John's so you need to trace them both on census returns.
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18-02-2018, 2:00 AM #3Dundee10Guest
Parents of the bride and groom did not sign anything unless they were witnesses to the marriage. The couple were required to give the minister the names and occupations of their respective fathers, so if John said that his father was named William then that is the line you follow unless there is evidence to prove otherwise. What did he give as his father's occupation and who were the witnesses to the marriage? Why do you think that Richard was his father?
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18-02-2018, 2:25 AM #4
Harptree is in the registration district of Clutton. On the GRO Index which now gives the mother's maiden name the birth reg for John Sage Sept 1/4 1843 Clutton reg dist vol 11 page 102 gives the mother's maiden name as Wookey BUT there is a place called Wookey in the registration district of Wells Somerset
The other John Sage birth reg in Somerset, time frame 1842-1845 is in the reg dist. Wells Union and the mother's maiden name is Marshall.
There are two more births of a John Sage in 1841 both in the Wells Union reg dist On one the mother's maiden name is missing so presume illegitimate and the other is Ramsey.
ChristinaSometimes paranoia is just having all the facts.
William Burroughs
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18-02-2018, 2:31 AM #5
On FreeReg
John Sage born 12 Aug 1843
Baptism 24 Sep 1843
St Mary's church West Harptree
Father Richard Sage Labourer
Mother Harriet
So this is the John Sage birth reg sept 1/4 1843
There is a marriage on FreeBMD with Richard Sage and Harriet Wookey on the same page Dec 1/4 1837 Reg dist Bedminster vol 11 page 71
ChristinaSometimes paranoia is just having all the facts.
William Burroughs
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18-02-2018, 3:01 AM #6bsage760Guest
John Sage
Thank you for verifying the information. By the way, I love the Burroughs quote.
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18-02-2018, 3:27 AM #7Dundee10Guest
The John who married Jane FRICKER consistently says that he was born in Litton. The John who was the son of Richard is consistently born in West Harptree and is living with his father Richard and stepmother in 1881. He is unmarried.
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18-02-2018, 3:29 AM #8Dundee10Guest
The marriage of the parents of the John born in Litton with father's surname mistranscribed.
Marriages December Qtr 1841
BARTLETT Charles
FLOWER Mary
LAYE William
REDLEY Diana
Clutton Vol. 11 Page 113
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18-02-2018, 3:50 AM #9
John Sage 20, married Jane Fricker 17, Feb 6th 1864 at Timsbury, his father William a labourer.
Married same day, and place: George Sage and Ann Keziah Wall, both full age, his father William a labourer.Alma
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18-02-2018, 3:54 AM #10Married same day, and place: George Sage and Ann Keziah Wall, both full age, his father William a labourer.Alma
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