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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiegel View Post
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    Baptism: 21 Apr 1839, Margarita Shine (born 9 Apr 1838), Parents Patricii Shine and Elizabeth Pittiwell. Baptism place: Clifton
    That can be something!!! Because in the act of death is written "Margaritta" and not Margaret?

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    And this is the grave:


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    Found a marriage of a Patrick Shines and a Elizabeth Bines, 17 Jul 1838, St Mary's church, Redcliffe, Bristol. Brides father is listed as John Attewell; grooms father is Michael Shine

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    Default Catholic diocese of Clifton

    This is getting interesting...

    As Margaret's baptism was recorded in Latin, I think it is likely that she was baptised a Catholic in a catholic church. The catholic diocese of Clifton is headed by Clifton Cathedral, which was built in the second half of the 19th century, so a bit late for this 'Margaret Shine'. There are, though, other catholic churches in the area, I believe. But matters might be complicated by the fact that the Catholic Emancipation Act only came into force in 1829 - this might affect the places designated for catholic worship. (Sorry to be very vague about this - am trying to remember O Level History, mid-1960s!)

    You could try to discover where the archives of the Clifton Diocese are held. The National Archives has these few references to the Catholic Diocese:
    #http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F119453

    Perhaps that could be a starting point? Also, note that Clifton has long been regarded as the 'posh' part of Bristol, so it would be interesting to see what jobs are recorded in the censuses for this Shine family. Anyway, the social 'fit' is starting to look right for this Margaret Shine. Perhaps she's yours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewideeyedowl View Post

    SHINE, Margaret/June Qtr 1839/Bristol/Vol 11/p165
    GRO has mother's maiden name as HATTEWELL (see #13)

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    Last edited by elsinore; 12-02-2018 at 5:33 PM. Reason: added a bit

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