Birth registered twice? ... or 2 people?

[emmteeyess]

Could a birth be registered twice - same Office, same quarter, same name or must this be 2 seperate Thomas Wilfrids? (possible I guess if they were cousins, say, named after a grandfather - rather than 2 random unrelated people, which would be possible too)




Thing is - I don't want to go on any wild goose chases, but I've found 1 infant burial but not with the father's name I was expecting.



Cheers MTS

[almach]

Could a birth be registered twice - same Office, same quarter, same name or must this be 2 seperate Thomas Wilfrids? (possible I guess if they were cousins, say, named after a grandfather - rather than 2 random unrelated people, which would be possible too)




Thing is - I don't want to go on any wild goose chases, but I've found 1 infant burial but not with the father's name I was expecting.



Cheers MTS

The page numbers are different, so do seem to be different births.

The Gro website has different mother's maiden names.
ROBINSON, THOMAS WILFRID, MMN BELL
GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in SUNDERLAND Volume 10A Page 830

ROBINSON, THOMAS WILFRID, MMN TODD
GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in SUNDERLAND Volume 10A Page 666

[elsinore]

......and there are two infant deaths recorded as follows:

Thomas Wilfrid ROBINSON d. Sunderland 1906 Q4 10A 450 Age 0
Thomas Wilfred ROBINSON d. Sunderland 1906 Q3 10A 376 Age 0

Peter

[almach]

Thing is - I don't want to go on any wild goose chases, but I've found 1 infant burial but not with the father's name I was expecting.

Was the father's name John William? The 1911 census has a family including John William Robinson 38, his wife Annie Gillespie Robinson, and children including Ruth and Mary Gillespie who both have MMN Bell. Conveniently their 1911 census return also has a Thomas Wilfred and Edith Robinson who are crossed through, both births had MMN Bell. JWR and AGR had seven children born alive, five still living and two who had died, as there's five children on the census in addition to the two crossed through that Thomas Wilfred presumably had died before the 1911 census.

[almach]

Peter, what is the name of the father of the Thomas Wilfred you are researching?

[elsinore]

Peter, what is the name of the father of the Thomas Wilfred you are researching?

I think you mean emmteeyess, Alma!

Peter

[almach]

I think you mean emmteeyess, Alma!

Peter

Oops, yes sorry

[emmteeyess]

The page numbers are different, so do seem to be different births.

The Gro website has different mother's maiden names.
ROBINSON, THOMAS WILFRID, MMN BELL
GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in SUNDERLAND Volume 10A Page 830

ROBINSON, THOMAS WILFRID, MMN TODD
GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in SUNDERLAND Volume 10A Page 666

Was the father's name John William? The 1911 census has a family including John William Robinson 38, his wife Annie Gillespie Robinson, and children including Ruth and Mary Gillespie who both have MMN Bell. Conveniently their 1911 census return also has a Thomas Wilfred and Edith Robinson who are crossed through, both births had MMN Bell. JWR and AGR had seven children born alive, five still living and two who had died, as there's five children on the census in addition to the two crossed through that Thomas Wilfred presumably had died before the 1911 census.

It's the MMN - BELL family I'm looking at, and also I've found that 1911 census entry, with the 2 entries for the 2 dead children crossed out (that was a usefull mistake by JW to list all his children before he crossed the 2 out). The other children all tie in.

So, a seperate ROBINSON/TODD family it would seem. Will have to pick my way carefully now!

Cheers, MTS

[emmteeyess]

......and there are two infant deaths recorded as follows:

Thomas Wilfrid ROBINSON d. Sunderland 1906 Q4 10A 450 Age 0
Thomas Wilfred ROBINSON d. Sunderland 1906 Q3 10A 376 Age 0

Peter

So there is! That would account for the father's name not being the one I expected.
The one I've found so far is the 'wrong one'.
Back to the drawing board.

Cheers, MTS

[emmteeyess]

The Gro website has different mother's maiden names.
ROBINSON, THOMAS WILFRID, MMN BELL
GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in SUNDERLAND Volume 10A Page 830

ROBINSON, THOMAS WILFRID, MMN TODD
GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in SUNDERLAND Volume 10A Page 666

Thanks for that almach - I'm going to have to get used to checking on the GRO site not just FreeBMD, as obviously mmn is a very useful thing to know or eliminate.

Cheers, MTS