How can you know that? Some births went unregistered. Fact.I know she HAS to have one!
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30-11-2017, 5:05 PM #11
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30-11-2017, 8:13 PM #12aroundincirclesGuest
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30-11-2017, 8:51 PM #13
Hi
WILLIAM KENNY in 1881
MARY ELLEN KENNY in 1883
JOHN WILLIAM KENNY in 1885
HANNAH / ANNA in in 1891
SARAH (she is another story as I was once in touch with a relative of Sarahs who said that Hannah was only Sarahs half sister - and Sarahs father was called Patrick Noon!?!)
There is a John Kenny ( No second name William) Liverpool mmn Kelly Sept 1/4 1885
There is a William Kenny birth June 1/4 in West Derby 1881 but mmn is Turner.
I can't find a Hannah/Anna Kenny/Kelly in 1891
I searched without entering the mother's maiden name and used +/- 1 year either side of the dates you gave.
You have all the children you gave on the censuses after 1881?
Did Roger die 1917 in Leeds registration district?
Sorry for all the questions but I am trying to get a handle on this.
ChristinaSometimes paranoia is just having all the facts.
William Burroughs
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30-11-2017, 11:47 PM #14Dundee10Guest
Perhaps this 1901 census record might be of interest.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9VR-BHB
There is only one birth registered in Liverpool 1896-1900 for a Sarah NOON and the mother's maiden surname is KENNY.
There is a birth registered in 1900 in Liverpool for a Margaret NOON, mother's maiden surname KELLY.
What are the details from the death cert of Roger KENNY? I was wondering if he had been in an institution.
What are the details from Ann/Hannah's marriage certificate? Address? Witnesses?
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01-12-2017, 12:46 AM #15
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Link to earlier thread
https://www.british-genealogy.com/ar.../t-14516.html?
Daughter Maria Helena b 25 May 1885 married Aug 1901 George McNabb, her father is Roger the address given at the time of marriage is Boundary Street
Searching the address in the 1901 census shows a
Mary KENNY b 1855 Liverpool single Aunt to head of household
RG13; Piece: 3408; Folio: 6; Page: 3
Bartholomew Riley 35
Bridget Riley 32
Mary J Riley 7
Lilian Riley 10/12
Mary J Kenny 46
She was nee Higgins. Searching the RC records has the names as Bartholemai, & Birgitta
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01-12-2017, 1:17 AM #16
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It's late, however I have looked for Bridget Higgins b 1869 Liverpool and find her as a 2 yearold living with Michael & Jane HIGGINS
1871 RG10 3798 10 14
1881 with a Bridget Kenny b 1821 Ireland as grandaughter
1891 With Daniel Kenny as his niece
All census show the address a Sand Street
She married 1893
Riley = Reilly
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01-12-2017, 2:05 AM #17Dundee10Guest
At number 7 Boundary Place in 1901 is Mary E KENNY with grandmother Mary KELLY.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X926-2V9
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01-12-2017, 2:58 PM #18aroundincirclesGuest
Thankyou Christina - sorry for delay - been working nights.
I have:
ROGER and MARY ANN (nee Kelly) Marriage Cert from 1881 (Best Man Patrick Noon! yep i know)
Mary Ellen Kenny 11/6/83 birth certicate
John Kenny 18/7/1885- birth certicate, bapstismal entry, 2 marriage certs and death cert.
William Kenny 29/4/1881 Birth certificate
Nothing for Hannah/Anna aprt from Baptismal certificate. In which
Hannahs Marriage certificate to my grandad in Sep 1913 states her as HANNAH KELLY, fathers name ROGER KELLY (!) deceased.
Sarah NOON 10/8/1897 Father Patrick Noon, mother Mary Noon Formerly KELLY (!!)
Death Certicates..
MARY ANN KENNY 1903 Wife of Roger Kenny and his address and occupation. Died in hospital - informant Patrick Kelly (brother) this is what i dont get either - if she was with Patrick Noon and was the mother of Sarah (see Sarahs bc entry above) how did she die 6 years later the wife of Roger.
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01-12-2017, 3:04 PM #19aroundincirclesGuest
Thanks Dundee10
Apologies as I have over 25 years worth of paperwork to wade through, I get on a mission - then completely draw blanks and put it all away! and there it says like a nagging ache for a couple of years - then im back!
Margaret Noon you mentioned went onto die at about age 2 or 3 (from memory) I do have Roger Kenny death certifacite but cannot put my hand to it - I will be back later tongiht with some info - I just wanted to reply.
Hannah marriage Cert states her as HANNAH KELLY- fathers name ROGER KELLY!!!! instead of Kenny.
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01-12-2017, 3:12 PM #20aroundincirclesGuest
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