74th Foot Highlander

[LookingHard]

Hi Guys

I am looking for joining up records for John Nelson b 1820 of Paisley, He joined in Glasgow 10th June 1842, #2166 and Joseph Harper of Aidrie joined in Belfast IreLand 23rd Oct 1847 # 1762. I have both of their discharge papers which gave me their numbers etc.
So I am chasing up for their attestation papers if they are on record as I am trying to find their next of kin.

These men spent time in India.

So someone help or guide me to the right direction.

Many thanks in advance.

Regards

Tony Thompson
Queensland Australia

[christanel]

Hello Tony and welcome to the British-Genealogy forums
If you came to us from Forces War Records reading this will tell you a little about us.

I will take a look around and see if I can find anything but I do believe records are pretty scarce for that earlier period. If I am wrong someone will correct me.
Christina

[christanel]

I can't see any attestation for John Nelson yet but was wondering if this could be him after leaving the army. When was he discharged?
1851 census (I can only view the transcription)
Falkirk
John Nelson 30 Coal Miner born Paisley, Renfrewshire
Janet 35 Falkirk, Stirling
Peter Jack Nelson 14 son Coal Miner Falkirk, Stirling
James Nelson 9 months Falkirk, Stirling

The ages of anyone over 15 were supposed to be marked down to the nearest 5 and it looks as if these have been otherwise John would be a very young fathre and mother to Peter

Christina

[LookingHard]

Hello Christina

I tried to add copies of it ..lol

Hope below gives you a better picture..

John Nelson - Weaver - Born Paisley , he left 30th July 1868 . He was discharged at Netley and nominated place of residence was Glasgow.

John married? Margaret Renwick they had a daughter Elizabeth b 1842 Glasgow 2 boys born in Ireland , Elizabeth and 3 children is in the 1871 census at Liverpool, they were boarding or briefly stayed at Sweatman's place before they met up with John in India.


Joseph Harper - Weaver - He married to above John Nelson daughter Elizabeth in 1856 India. He was discharged at Gosport in 22nd Dec 1868. He and Family went to Glasgow, also in the 1871 census living in Bridgeton. then came out to Australia.


So far information is consistence Unless they lied somewhere!!

Tony


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[Peter Goodey]

So I am chasing up for their attestation papers if they are on record as I am trying to find their next of kin.

If you've found discharge papers (presumably you mean series WO97) that's may be all there is to find.

An attestation document of that vintage is unlikely to mention next of kin.

[LookingHard]

Hi Guys
What would have been the appropiate age to enlist at that era .. even tho it is known some lied to join .

Thanks
Tony

[geneius]

The family can be found in 1851 at H107 2177 389 19 h/household Sweatman

John NELSON
Attested 1842 states b Paisley aged 22
discharged 1867 aged 47.6m this is contained on his discharge papers Mathematically if the info is correct, John was born circa 1820

Looking for William b 1849 Scotland, and assuming it was in Glasgow, this is the only birth entry I can see that has John as the father & Margaret as the mother

NELSON WILLIAM
JOHN NELSON/MARGARET MILLER FR654 (FR654)
22/04/1849
652/ 20 609
Old Monkland or Coatbridge
The record on familysearch.org
William Nelson Birth Date 07 Apr 1849
Christening Date 22 Apr 1849
OLD MONKLAND, LANARK, SCOTLAND
Father's Name John Nelson
Mother's Name Margaret Miller

GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)
NELSON John
Year 1851
b Cork Ireland
Father 74th foot
V1306 p 3

Child born in India
Alexander Nelson b 22 September 1858 died 8 Sept 1863 Bellary Madras father private 74th Highlanders

GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)Alexander Nelson B 1858 at Bellary v1304 9 127

Applying for this birth certificate will give you the mothers maiden name which you need to confirm

[geneius]

On the attestation papers, the record indicates that Joseph was underage when signing up!

As you know Joseph on his marriage stated that his father was Joseph.

Again his year of birth is 1829/1830.

The family can be found on the 1871 Scotland census
Name Joseph Harper
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Gender Male
Age 41
Birthplace Lanarkshire
Registration District Bridgeton
County Lanarkshire
Birth Year (Estimated) 1830

[helachau]

Hello Christina

John married? Margaret Renwick they had a daughter Elizabeth b 1842 Glasgow 2 boys born in Ireland , Elizabeth and 3 children is in the 1871 census at Liverpool, they were boarding or briefly stayed at Sweatman's place before they met up with John in India".

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The discharge papers identify 3 regiments - 108th No. 2166; 105th No. 896; 74th No. 2127

FMP Royal Hospital Chelsea - Admission Books
Name - John Nelson; Rate - 1s 1 1/2d; Date of Admission - 30 July 67, 896; Column headed "District, 1865" - 2 Glasgow

The year column 1869 is marked "died 22/12" - clerical error?

The page is headed "108th Regt of Foot"