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    Thank you for all the help.
    I think I have found Henry Johnson in the 1851 census Westminster St Margaret, Middlesex. (Piece 1480, Folio 565, p45).
    As he is not living with his parents I need to find a birth certificate for him for his birth in approx., 1838, Hayes Middlesex. I always find trying to trace some one with such a popular name rather difficult.

    I feel sure that the 1881 census information is correct and the enumerator must have put down the wrong surname. Hargreaves is not in any way similar to Johnson so thank you for finding this. All help much appreciated. Thank you.

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    JOHNSON, HENRY JOHNSON, mother's maiden name GODFREY
    GRO Reference: 1837 S Quarter in UXBRIDGE UNION Volume 03 Page 161 (Uxbridge was the registration district for Hayes)

    Name: Henry Johnson
    Record Type: Baptism
    Baptism Date: 10 Aug 1837
    Father's name: Thomas Johnson
    Mother's name: Mary Johnson
    Parish or Poor Law Union: Hayes
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    Thomas Johnson married Mary Ann Godfrey, 28 Oct 1821 Hayes. Thomas signed, Mary left her mark. Sorry I can't be certain of the witnesses names as very faint writing, I think one is George Godfrey, the other ????? Cock
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    Possible siblings of Henry
    All baptised Hayes the children of Thomas a labourer and Mary Ann Johnson

    William Thomas 18 Aug 1822; John 15 Jul 1824; Thomas 12 Feb 1826; Edith 5 Aug 1827; Benjamin 28 Jun 1829; Matthew Johnson 13 Nov 1831; Emma 9 Jun 1833;
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    It looks like Edith is a servant in Uxbridge in 1851, HO107; Piece: 1697; Folio: 307; Page: 56

    BUT.............she's with her parents in 1861 (if the right folks, why would Henry be in an institution (Alms School) in 1851?)
    Living in Hayes, all born Hayes, RG 9; Piece: 769; Folio: 62; Page: 1
    Thomas Johnson 66
    Mary Johnson 59
    Edith Johnson 32

    1871, she's a servant in Hartley Wintney, Hampshire. RG10; Piece: 1233; Folio: 114; Page: 16

    1841, Hayes. HO107; Piece: 655; Book: 10; Folio: 47; Page: 2
    Thomas Johnson 40, Ag. Lab
    Mary Johnson 35
    Wm Johnson 15
    Emma Johnson 8
    Henry Johnson 5

    1851, Hayes, HO107; Piece: 1697; Folio: 547; Page: 34
    Thomas Johnson 56
    Mary A Johnson 48
    Emma Johnson 18
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    In 1841, Matthew is also in an institution (school?) headed by a governess.
    Isleworth, piece 658; book 7; folio 11; page 15

    Benjamin I haven't spotted in1841, he's easily found in 1851 and later.

    William, Thomas and John I haven't pinned down with certainty, more searching required and I don't have the spare time just now. Hopefully what's been found will be some help to you.

    Just before I leave the search here's Mary Ann's burial record, Hayes 16 Oct 1864, Mary Ann Johnson age 62yrs.
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    1851 HO107; Piece: 1466; Folio: 73; Page: 5;
    David Giles 49
    Ann Giles 51
    Willm Johnson 28
    Rachael Johnson 22
    Mary Ann Johnson 6 Mo

    Thos Lovegrove 23
    Will Smith 27
    John Bend 40
    George Logar 23
    John Johnson 26

    St John, Paddington
    William Thomas Johnson married Rachel Beasely, 5 June 1859
    They made there mark "X" as did a Mary Ann Johnson, J Jones signed

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    Harriet Godfrey was Hargreaves in 1881 census, and Hargreaves in 1901 census in Thanet with her grandson. In the 1911 census she is still in Thanet living with her daughter Mary A E Evans and two of her grandsons, but is back to being Harriet Johnson.

    Her daughter Mary married Charles Cecil Evans Mar Qtr. 1901, Thanet with the name Mary Ann Hargraves Johnson. Did Henry Johnson die and Harriet re-marry a Mr Hargraves? It would appear that her last child with Johnson surname was in 1877, and by 1881 she was using the name Hargraves, did she marry another plumber?
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    Default Henry Thomas Johnson - Bailiff

    Henry Thomas Johnson was the father of Henry Johnson who married Harriett Godfrey on 16 November 1867. He was noted as being a Bailiff on his son's marriage certificate. Any further help trying to find him in census records would be a help. He was not marked as deceased, so I am hopeful he can be found in 1861, and possibly 1871.

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    Have youbeen able to eliminate this Harriet from 1871?

    FS have a married 23 year old Harrett (note spelling) Johnson in 1871 in Paddington, no husband shown. She is with a Margeret King b 1825 widow, a Caroline Longsdaleb 1827, nurse and a 2 year old boarder Edith Faircloth .

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