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    I think this is Dinah in 1841, Hastings All Saints. HO107; Piece: 1107; Book: 2; Folio: 39; Page: 24.

    Thos Leppard 45
    Martha Leppard 45
    Ann Leppard 20
    Thos Leppard 15
    Will Leppard 14
    Mercy Leppard 12
    Dinah Leppard 10
    Edwd Leppard 8
    Mary A Leppard 4
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    Quote Originally Posted by almach View Post
    Perhaps James Brown is a second husband???
    His name is Joseph, not James.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dundee10 View Post
    His name is Joseph, not James.
    Yes, thank you There's too many James and Joseph's and I'm befuddled with them.

    Diamond, perhaps I was right first time see #5 and Joseph Brown and James Williams are two different chaps. Mary perhaps didn't fully understand the question (1911 census) about how long she'd been married, didn't realise it related only to her present marriage to Joseph Brown.

    Oh, I dunno, think I'm over tired, anyway see what you think to what's been found so far.
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    If Mary Ann Glazier did marry for a 2nd time, obviously she'd be Williams then, here's a possible mariage

    Mar qrt 1881, Hastings, 2b 53, Mary Ann Williams on the same page James Joseph Brown (here we go again with James and Joseph )
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    I've just noticed that Philadelphia married as: "Glazier Philadelphia Williams", i.e. GLAZIER was her surname. It does pose the question why???
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    Sorry to say, Diamond, after all that searching I haven't found a James Williams with a father John, who was a sweep. And perhaps you already had what's been found.

    The search continues
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    Some summing up!

    James Williams b. 1846 married (1873) Mary Ann Glazier b.1854.
    James a mariner at marriage, father John a sweep (still looking for him)

    Children registered as Williams, MMN Glazier:
    Philadelphia 1873
    Elizabeth 1876 (possibly died pre 1881 census)
    Emma 1877
    Joseph 1879

    1881 census, RG11; Piece: 1021; Folio: 46; Page: 52
    If correct Mary Ann and her 'Williams' children now known as BROWN
    Joseph Brown 27, Surrey unknown ???
    Mary A. Brown 27, Sussex Guestling
    Phillie Brown 7, Ore (next sighting marriage 1896) marries as Philadelphia Williams GLAZIER???
    Emma Brown 3, Ore
    Joseph Brown 1, Ore (he's not with his mother in 1891, may have died 1881 - 1891)

    There is a possible marriage Mar qrt 1881 Hastings
    Mary Ann Williams on the same page James Joseph Brown
    If 'your' Mary Ann you need to find the death of James Williams (needle in a haystack, could have died at sea)

    1891, 48, Church St, Ore, RG12; Piece: 758; Folio: 93; Page: 39
    Joseph born Southampton, all other family Ore
    Joseph Brown 37, fisherman
    Mary Brown 37
    Emma Brown 14 (married Matthew Fountain Mar qrt 1900 Hastings)
    George Brown 10 (with now married sister, Emma, in 1901 RG13; Piece: 1655; Folio: 134; Page: 69)
    Charlie Brown 7
    Dinah Brown 5 (married Frederick Charles Weaver Sept 1905, Hastings)
    Rose Brown 3
    Flossie Brown 6/12

    1901,102, Church St. Ore, RG13; Piece: 862; Folio: 64; Page: 17
    Joseph Brown 45, fisherman Southampton
    Mary A Brown 46, Guestling
    Charlie Brown 19, fisherman, Hastings
    Rose Brown 12, Ore (married Richard Phillips Hastings Jun 1907, Richard's service records on Ancestry)
    Flossie Brown 10, Ore (married Edwin Dyer Sep 1910 Hastings, in 1911 brother George and his wife Florence are with them) Edwin John Dyers service records on Ancestry.
    Lily Brown 7, Ore

    1911, Bexhill, RG14; Piece: 4782; Schedule Number: 120
    Joseph Brown 57, fisherman,
    Mary Ann Brown 57, married 38yrs, 10 children born, 7 still living
    Charley Brown 27

    I hope this information is useful; do feel free to pick holes, and shoot me down in flames if your research proves different to my findings
    Alma

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