I'm pretty sure that in the 1712 extract James will be the father's name, and there isn't a name, or even gender, given for the child. The header/description you posted for this one just gives the child's surname, so it looks as though the National Records of Scotland thought this too.
Sorry, I didn't comment on this. Sue suggested above (and I agree) that w. will be an abbreviation for witnesses.
I'm fairly confident in what I've suggested, but sometimes you can get clues from other entries - eg how have they prefixed the witnesses? If it's sometimes "wit" and sometimes "w", then that supports the idea.
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05-07-2017, 1:28 PM #11
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05-07-2017, 1:35 PM #12
If he was still born, he would not have been baptized with witnesses, etc. it's unusual to see a child recorded as stillborn with a forename. If he drew breath after birth, but was obviously too weak to live, he could have had a bedside baptism - even the midwife could do it. The Kirk minsters had a lot of leeway about what they recorded.
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05-07-2017, 2:02 PM #13
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I think I need to clarify; I have several documents from Scotland's People;
Robert Yelton and Margaret Brown were married in Edinburgh Parish;
Robert s/o James, late farmer in Dolphinton, now in N. K. p.; Margaret Brown, servitrix to Robert Hunter, merchant, burgess 31 Mar 1706 Robert, merchant, *burgess; his widow. See Margaret Brown.
Robert & Margaret had at least the following children;
Name: Alexander Yelton
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 02 May 1708
Christening Place: EDINBURGH PARISH, EDINBURGH, MIDLOTHIAN, SCOTLAND
Father's Name: Robert Yelton
Mother's Name: Margaret Broun
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11979-1 , System Origin: Scotland-VR , GS Film number: 1066666 , Reference ID: 2:17N9JXC
Name: Eupham Yeltoun
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 23 Jun 1709
Christening Place: EDINBURGH PARISH, EDINBURGH, MIDLOTHIAN, SCOTLAND
Father's Name: Robert Yeltoun
Mother's Name: Margaret Broun
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11979-2 , System Origin: Scotland-VR , GS Film number: 1066666 , Reference ID: 2:17NBBXG
Name: John Yelton
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 01 Feb 1711
Christening Place: EDINBURGH PARISH, EDINBURGH, MIDLOTHIAN, SCOTLAND
Father's Name: Robert Yelton
Mother's Name: Margaret Broun
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11979-2 , System Origin: Scotland-VR , GS Film number: 1066666 , Reference ID: 2:17NC7HD
Name: James Yelton
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 08 May 1712
Christening Place: EDINBURGH PARISH, EDINBURGH, MIDLOTHIAN, SCOTLAND
Father's Name: Robert Yelton
Mother's Name: Margaret Broun
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11979-2 , System Origin: Scotland-VR , GS Film number: 1066666 , Reference ID: 2:17ND1TK
(If this is my James, he was christened in 1712 so he could not be the child who was stillborn in 1714)
Robert Yelton apprenticed at least one son,
UK, Register of Duties Paid for Apprentices' Indentures, 1710-1811
Master's Name: Jams Norie
Apprentice Name: Robt Yelton (he would have been abt. 14 yrs. of age)
Residence Location: Edinburgh
Payment Date: 8 Dec 1720
Other document include;
Edinburgh Marriage Register 1701-1750 (page 601)
Yelton (Yeltoun, Yiltown), Helen; James Simpson, writer 21 Apr 1708 Speculate that these may have been a younger sister of Robert Yelton who married Margaret Brown.
Marion; James Spotswood, barber 2 July 1702
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05-07-2017, 2:45 PM #14
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Very sorry - there's a typo here which has probably muddied the waters.
I was actually referring to the 1714 (stillbirth) extract, and I don't think there's anything in it that conflicts with the baptisms you've just listed.
So Robert and Margaret were having children including a James in 1712, and James Yelton had a stillborn child in 1714, whose name is unknown. From your searches, have you come across a James who might be the father in 1714?
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05-07-2017, 2:55 PM #15
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By the way, does anyone know if the Edinburgh Apprentice records are online anywhere? I have no problem paying for records but I will never get to Scotland because of health reasons. It has always been my supposition that my James was apprenticed and brought to America with his master. That might explain why we can not find him in any ship manifests...
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Records under the Surname Yelton (any spelling) are rare and very hard to come by!
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05-07-2017, 4:07 PM #19
#15 Maybe Robert & James were brothers? It would explain the similar timing and names....
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Possible! Robert Yelton lists his father as James in his marriage bans. So his father James may have had another son named James. I also believe that he had 2 daughters; Helen who married James Simpson and Marion who married James Spotswood. James Spotswood was also a witness in the christening of Robert's son James. Sounds like a family group to me!
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