My mother's parents first child was murdered. My grandparents were Patrick Hayes born in 1892 and Ellen Louisa Watkins born 1892, they were married in 1911 and lived in Campbell Road Finsbury Park London, also known as The Bunk, their son Patrick Walter was born and died in 1911 but I can't find his birth or death dates on Find My Past. Any help would be appreciated.
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Thread: Uncle murdered
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02-07-2017, 3:06 PM #1
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Uncle murdered
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02-07-2017, 3:28 PM #2Dundee10Guest
HAYES, PATRICK WALTER
Mother's maiden surname: WATKINS
GRO Reference: 1911 June Quarter in ISLINGTON
Volume 01B Page 178
HAYES, PATRICK WALTER
7 [probably months]
GRO Reference: 1911 Dec Quarter in ISLINGTON
Volume 01B Page 294
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/c...xes_search.asp
You would need to purchase the certificates for the exact dates.
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02-07-2017, 3:50 PM #3Dundee10Guest
From a news article, death was at 2am on Sunday 22 October 1911.
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02-07-2017, 6:49 PM #4
I just fed the child's name into the search engine of the British Newspaper archive, and got hits immediately. If you have a sub for the BNA or FMP (which has newspapers), or your local library does, have a look.
There were actually 2 babies involved - yours and a boy of 9 weeks who survived (at least until a hearing on 10 Nov when it wasn't known if he would survive)... There's a death reg for Leonard G Probert aged 0 in Islington for the start of 1912, so I guess that he didn't...
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02-07-2017, 8:26 PM #5
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There is a report of the court case for this online.
oldbaileyonline.org...
The title is for Walter Patrick Hayes but the report I can see if for the other child.You may have more luck directly on the website.
Patrick Walter Hayes
Gender: Male
Court Date: 9 Jan 1912
Court Place: London, England
Role: victim
Collection: Proceedings of the Old Bailey
ID: t19120109-name-203
Reference Number: t19120109-43
URL: https://www.oldbaileyonline.org...
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02-07-2017, 10:04 PM #6
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A quick search on the FamilySearch website returned these:
Birth: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2FL8-CR7
Death: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2NT9-RKF
1911 Census: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWLR-7D3
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03-07-2017, 6:57 AM #7
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Thank you everybody for the information, much appreciated.
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15-07-2017, 12:04 PM #8
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I found the transcript of the trial on the Old Bailey and I can hardly believe that the man who murdered the baby who would have been my uncle got 12 months hard labour as a sentence!!!
Thank you so much for your help in this matter.
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