Think this must b the William Henry born in hayton Boughton. ....though not sure how i can tell
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17-06-2017, 4:10 PM #11
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17-06-2017, 9:51 PM #12
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William Henry Ayres b 1874 died 1897 according to the Burial register was of Nelson St
1891 has the following at Nelson Street
RG12; Piece: 1169; Folio: 110; Page: 21;
William R Aures 49 Leather Dresser
Elizabeth Aures 46
William H Aures 17 Grocers Porter born Manchester
How did you connect William O'Connor to WH Ayres of Manchester?
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18-06-2017, 12:26 AM #13
What occupation is given for William's father on the marriage certificate, and who were the witnesses?
Alma
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18-06-2017, 6:22 AM #14
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Maybe a novices approach. ...all i did was use info i had....skant info tbh
1874....William ayers. ..father william....born Manchester
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18-06-2017, 6:24 AM #15
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Fathers occupation .......labourer....will chevk witness hames
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18-06-2017, 6:45 AM #16
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18-06-2017, 5:01 PM #17
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Forget the novice approach, I'm not doing to well at this one
You have a marriage certificate dated 1897 showing William O'Connor aged 23 father William.
1901 Census
William O'Connor aged 27 born Manchester
1911 Census William O'Connor ( there is noC it is an O) aged 37 Liverpool
Common denominators
William
Age is consistent
County of birth Lancashire
Check the signatures out on the Marriage and 1911 census ( oops do not know how to show them on the site)
Moving to the 1939 Register I can only see one William O'Connor whose dob is 4 August 1873. This gives a registration of birth as q3 1873 yet I cannot find a birth entry, nor can I see one for 1874
Ancestry has William O'Connor linked to this birth entry
William Henry Ayers
Registration Year 1874
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district Salford Lancashire
Volume 8d Page 51
The 1881 census states birth place as Haytin Broughton Manchester this is actually Higher Broughton Salford. Salford being next door to Manchester city centre.
On earlier posts I have given you the Ayres family census info. I did note that the 'parents' do not appear to have left their 'village' so was this child a foundling? There is also a big age gap between Clare & William. Clare is recorded a born 19 Sept 1867 but not baptised until 20 March 1879 parents Rich'd Wm & Elizabeth Ayres I cannot see a baptism for William
Turning now to Amy Hancock a witness to the marriage she was b 1971 as Ann Wilkins lives in Chacombe
Job Gardner b 1874 same village, no immediate relationship to William O'Connor
Only thought I have at present is to purchase the birth certificate of William Henry Ayres of Salford
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19-06-2017, 6:53 AM #18
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But would you say the William ayres born in Manchester is the one who died in oxford
and whats a foundling.....and.....lol....thanks for your help....real conundrum this
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19-06-2017, 9:18 AM #19
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I really think your next step would be to purchase the birth cert. Details of birth reg are in posts #2 & #17.
Buy from the GRO @ £9.25 per cert ( unless they've increased the price recently) as other sites charge more.
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19-06-2017, 10:09 AM #20
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Foundling = abandoned child. There is another Ayres family living in Nelson Street who also have a William b 1874ishh so unable to tell. The birth cert will give us something more positive like parents names/ occupation / place of birth etc. We will be either to discount him or include him.When you get the cert pick up this thread and those of us who have helped will receive notification of the post and be able to pick it up. Sorry if a jumble getting used to tablet.....jean PS don't lie being beaten jx
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