I am 99% certain that this is correct, but I have been known to be wrong .... :
From the WW1 Service Records (WO 363) - CLARKE, Herbert Sparrow enlisted in January 1913 & was de-mobbed in 1919. (36714 R Fusiliers; 79154 Middlesex; 447546 ASC).
Home address: Southall/Acton, London.
Declared age in Jan 1913: 32y 4m (so born c1883, Gorleston, Norfolk).
Married Great Yarmouth, 1904: Emma Barker RANT.
He married as Herbert CLARKE.
He served as Herbert Sparrow CLARKE.
Was he born as Herbert SPARROW? (There is no suitable birth for H S CLARKE)
Anc****y, CLA, pages 141884-141905
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26-05-2017, 3:44 PM #1
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Herbert SPARROW married 1904 as CLARKE - WW1
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26-05-2017, 7:07 PM #2
They are on the 1911 as Clarke, he's a brickie..
There's a dozen Herbert Sparrows b.1883 +/- 2y, but only 1 Norfolk boy - b. Yarmouth, son of William & Harriet.
FreeBMD gives her surname as Rant or Raut.
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26-05-2017, 11:02 PM #3marymogGuest
this birth is the right area for Gorleston
Births Sep 1883
SPARROW Herbert Mutford 4a 848
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27-05-2017, 12:20 AM #4marymogGuest
what i find strange, is 1891
William Sparrow Head M 46 Norfolk, England
Harriet Sparrow Wife F 37 Norfolk, England
Anna Sparrow Daughter F 14 Norfolk, England
Herbert Sparrow Son M 7 Suffolk, England
Frederick Sparrow Son M 4 Suffolk, England
Lily Sparrow Daughter F 2 Suffolk, England
and in 1901(I cant see who the parents are supposed to be, I dont have any subscriptions to see the census returns but
Frederick S Clarke Son M 12 Gt Yarmouth, Norfolk
Lilian S Clarke Daughter F 10 Gt Yarmouth, Norfolk
Leonard S Clarke Son M 8 Gt Yarmouth, Norfolk
Gladys S Clarke Daughter F 6 Gt Yarmouth, Norfolk
Ivy S Clarke Daughter F 1 Gt Yarmouth, Norfolk
the last three were born district Flegg surname clarke. anybody with a sub, can you help. are they living alone, the oldest 12 yrs old.
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27-05-2017, 1:07 AM #5
1901 RG13 Piece 1817 Folio 9 Page 9
Bridge Road, Runham, Vauxhall
Frederick S Clark 51 Millwright Great Yarmouth,( Someone has added a note to say middle name is Smith)
Clara S 46 Great Yarmouth,
Ethel S 20 Great Yarmouth,
William S 16 Great Yarmouth,
Maud S 15 12 Gt Yarmouth, Norfolk
Lilian S Clarke 10 Gt Yarmouth, Norfolk
Leonard S Clarke 8 Gt Yarmouth, Norfolk
Gladys S Clarke 6 Gt Yarmouth, Norfolk
Ivy S Clarke 1
ChristinaSometimes paranoia is just having all the facts.
William Burroughs
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27-05-2017, 1:13 AM #6
There is a baptism for a Leonard Smith Clarke 15 June 1893 father Frederick Clark and mother Clara.
Christina
Added:- Leonard also has a WW1 service record
Also Harriet Forder married William Clarke Dec 1/4 1875 Blofield reg district. Forder is the maiden name for this Herbert birth reg Sept 1/4 1883 SPARROW Herbert 4a 848 Now my head is starting to spin. Did they start out as Clark(e), change to Sparrow then back to Clark(e)Sometimes paranoia is just having all the facts.
William Burroughs
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27-05-2017, 1:59 AM #7
Birth registrations in Flegg reg district
Leonard Clarke 1893 mmn Hatch
Gladys Violet Clarke 1896 mmn Hatch
Ivy Daisy Clarke 1900 mmn Statch ( got mangled somewhere in the system?)
Going back to the eldest child in the 1901 census
Ethel S Clarke.
Birth registration for Ethel Smith Clark (no e) Dec 1/4 1880 Reg dist Flegg vol 4b page 39 mother's maiden name Hatch.
ChristinaSometimes paranoia is just having all the facts.
William Burroughs
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27-05-2017, 11:36 PM #8marymogGuest
was the sparrow thing, history repeating itself? could William clarke be related to Frederick, and the younger sparrows were taken in by the clarkes.
Name Frederick Clark
Census 1851
Event Place Freethorpe, Norfolk, England
Registration District Blofield
Residence Note Near The Green
Age 2
Birth Year (Estimated) 1849
Birthplace Thurlton, Norfolk
Page Number 6
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 1819 / 375
George Smith Head M 30 Thurlton, Norfolk
Mary Ann Smith Wife F 22 Thurlton, Norfolk
Frederick Clark M 2 Thurlton, Norfolk
Marriages Dec 1850
Barber Emma Blofield 13 55
Brinded Susan Blofield 13 55
Clarke Mary Anne Blofield 13 55
Gunton Robert Blofield 13 55
Huggins Robert Blofield 13 55
Smith George Blofield 13 55
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28-05-2017, 12:16 AM #9marymogGuest
either the 1875 marriage didnt last long, and Harriett could moved in with a W Sparrow. maybe W Clarke absconded.
Name Harriet Sparrow
Event Type Census
Event Date 1881
Event Place Upton With Fishley, Norfolk, England
Registration District Blofield
Residence Note Boat Staithe
Gender Female
Age 27
Marital Status (Original) Married
Occupation Bricklayers Wife
Relationship to Head of Household Wife Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1854
Birthplace Hardley, Norfolk, England
Page Number 15
Registration Number RG11
Piece/Folio 1961/116
Affiliate Record Type Household
Harriet Sparrow Wife Head F 27 Hardley, Norfolk, England
George Sparrow Son M 8 Langley, Norfolk, England
Anna Sparrow Daughter F 4 Upton, Norfolk, England
Births Sep 1876
CLARKE Anna Blofield 4b 195
Births Mar 1873
FORDER George Loddon 4b 216
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28-05-2017, 12:40 AM #10marymogGuest
I am thinking maybe William Clarke got himself put in prison and then changed his name. Any records on ancestry between 1875 and 1881?
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