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    You are on the same track as me, great minds.....

    Sorry for any repetition....

    antony1958,

    There is no easy way to find what you are looking for. You just need to check and eliminate using the information you already have which at this point is just that father William is a Tailor, Elizabeth was born 25 April c1907, possibly in Glasgow.

    Please keep in mind that I am only using indexes and transcriptions so everything should be followed up by you looking at the original images on ScotlandsPeople.

    There is a family living in Glasgow in 1901:

    William McPHERSON, 37, Head, Tailor, born Inverness, Kingussie
    Mary McPHERSON, 52, Wife, born Glasgow (I think the original will actually show age as 32)
    Robert, 10, born Glasgow
    Mollie, 5, born Glasgow

    Registration Number: 644/8
    Registration district: Milton
    Civil Parish: Glasgow St George in the Fields
    County: Lanarkshire
    Address: 16 Raglan St
    ED: 43
    Household schedule number: 152
    LINE: 7
    Roll: CSSCT1901_295

    Going forward to the free 1911 index on SP, these people all show the same reference number (644/9 26/ 20, Milton, Lanark):

    MCPHERSON, WILLIAM, 48
    MCPHERSON, MARY, 43
    MCPHERSON, ROBERT, 20
    MCPHERSON, MARY, 15
    MCPHERSON, WILLIAM, 7
    MCPHERSON, ELIZABETH, 5
    MCPHERSON, AUGUS, 0 (should be Angus?)

    Possible corresponding births for those children:

    MCPHERSON, ROBERT, M, 1891, 644/8 14, Milton
    MCPHERSON, MARY, F, 1898, 644/8 440, Milton
    MCPHERSON, WILLIAM, M, 1903, 644/8 1011, Milton
    OR
    MCPHERSON, WILLIAM MCCLELL, M, 1904, 644/8 1247, Milton
    MCPHERSON, ELIZABETH, F, 1905, 644/8 590, Milton
    OR
    MCPHERSON, ELIZABETH, F, 1907, 644/9 705, Milton
    MCPHERSON, ANGUS, M, 1910, 644/9 854, Milton

    This is probably Robert here:

    https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTFQ-QFS

    Robert McPHERSON
    Gender Male
    Birth Date 16 Dec 1890
    Birthplace Milton, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
    Father's Name William McPHERSON
    Mother's Name Mary Mechan McPHERSON

    ....which would make this the likely marriage:

    MCPHERSON, WILLIAM
    MECHAN, MARY
    1890, 644/9 489, 489, Kelvin

    1891 census

    Wiliam McPHERSON, 27, Tailor, born Alba, Invernesshire (I think this should be Alvie)
    Mary McPHERSON, 23, born Glasgow
    Robert, 3 months, born Glasgow

    Registration Number: 644/9
    Registration district: Kelvin
    Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony
    County: Lanarkshire
    Address: 1 Hopehill Pl
    ED: 106
    Household schedule number: 13
    LINE: 20
    Roll: CSSCT1891_280

    1) I would like you to go onto SP and check the images for the two possible births for Elizabeth as given above. Which one (if either) is the daughter of William McPHERSON and Mary MECHAN, and what is the date of birth?

    2) I would like you to go onto SP and check the image for the marriage of William MCPHERSON and Mary MECHAN in 1890, also given above. What are the names of William's parents? I am hoping they are Angus MCPHERSON and Janet/Jessie WARREN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geneius View Post
    There is a William Warren Mcpherson b 1897 Glasgow ( Kelvin area) died 1900 Glasgow ( Milton area)
    There are some big gaps in the children that show on the census entries so it is likely that William and Mary lost some children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dundee10 View Post
    Possible corresponding births for those children:

    MCPHERSON, ROBERT, M, 1891, 644/8 14, Milton
    MCPHERSON, MARY, F, 1898, 644/8 440, Milton
    MCPHERSON, WILLIAM, M, 1903, 644/8 1011, Milton
    OR
    MCPHERSON, WILLIAM MCCLELL, M, 1904, 644/8 1247, Milton
    MCPHERSON, ELIZABETH, F, 1905, 644/8 590, Milton
    OR
    MCPHERSON, ELIZABETH, F, 1907, 644/9 705, Milton
    MCPHERSON, ANGUS, M, 1910, 644/9 854, Milton
    This birth reg. is closer to Mary's age:

    MCPHERSON, MARY, F, 1896, 644/9 19, Kelvin

    It is a shame they don't give parents' first names in the initial indexes.

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    Dundee10

    Odd how we have arrived at the same conclusion via different routes...

    Still think that William Warren McPherson is the key to all this.

    If anthony 1958 takes our initial advice it will not cost that much to verify the info....far cheaper than UK records and an instant reply, not waiting for snail mail

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    i am really shocked how far you all got , was any baptised, on elizabeth,s .& alexander,s wedding her father was william warren macpherson tailor, buy looking they named a son william warren b 1897 d 1900 so if i order william macpherson born 1864 inverness, it will tell me angus macpherson / janet /jessie warren , mother /father

    I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL , YOU HAVE PUT ME ON THE RIGHT AVENUE,

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    sorry all,
    i have spent most off today on scotish people, how you found all, it shows how good you all are, could not find angus macpherson wed janet warren, infact i could,nt find any of it , i would love to add all this to my family tree, but not sure,

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    Quote Originally Posted by antony1958 View Post
    sorry all,
    i have spent most off today on scotish people, how you found all, it shows how good you all are, could not find angus macpherson wed janet warren, infact i could,nt find any of it , i would love to add all this to my family tree, but not sure,
    I think this could be diagnosed as being bitten by the Family history bug!

    I presume you have followed all the information we have given to you and concluded that this is YOUR Elizabeth Mcpherson family

    You have William Mcpherson married Mary Mechan, if you look at the marriage entry you should find a column for details of William's father, in this case Dundee10 expects it to be Angus Mcpherson, on the same block it should show Ianet Mcpherson MS ( denoting mothers maiden surname) this should show Warren.

    Your next challenge is to work out approx. when they were married or find them on a census return

    Angus Mcpherson
    Birth Date 22 Oct 1812
    Baptism Date 25 Oct 1812
    Baptism Place Kingussie and Insch,Inverness,Scotland
    Father Mal. Mcpherson
    Mother Margt. Robertson
    FHL Film Number 990710, 990711

    1851
    Alvie; ED: 3; Page: 2; Line: 19
    Angus Mcpherson 38 weaver Kingussie
    Janet Mcpherson 33 Alvie
    Malcolm Mcpherson 7
    Charles Mcpherson 5
    Alexr Mcpherson 3
    Bell Mcpherson 2
    Robert Mcpherson 9 Mo

    1861
    Alvie; ED: 5; Page: 7; Line: 13
    Augur Mcpherson 48
    Janet Mcpherson 42
    Alexander Mcpherson 14
    Bell Mcpherson 12
    Robert Mcpherson 10
    Margaret Mcpherson 7
    James Mcpherson 8
    Jane Mcpherson 3

    I just readily cannot finds a marriage for Angus this would be earlier then 1844 when the first child appears to have been borm

    You will find brief details of some of the baptised children including William b 1862 on www.familysearch.org a free site

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    i would just like to thank, everyone who solved my prob , i noticed on 1911 census that their were 10 children , 5 died ,
    i know william warren b1897 d 1900 , could not find the other,s , never mind , all this has gone onto my family tree, many many thank,s .

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