Looking for Elizabeth Granger

[perdia]

I have Elizabeth Granger born 1829 st lukes old st London. Daughter of Thomas and Elizabeth Granger. I have found her in the 1841 census but then she disappears. I cannot find her in 1851 so wonder if she died although cannot find a death either. She was born at the chamberlains arms public house in noble st. Would be grateful for any help
Perdia

[Pam Downes]

From a previous thread, is this Elizabeth in the 1841 census? Though her age doesn't tie in with her being born in 1829.

1841 Census: HO107; Piece 668; Book: 4; Folio: 29; Page: 4; (crown copyright, care of the TNA)
Living at Noble St, St Lukes, Old Street, Middlesex, all born in the county.
Elizth Granger 36, Victualler
Elizth Granger 14
Hannah Granger 9
Thomas Granger 3
William Granger 1
Wm Duncombe 23
George Duncombe 19

From post #6 in this thread https://www.british-genealogy.com/th...t-lukes-london

Perdia - since you created that thread back in 2010 have you found any baptisms of the children?

Pam

[perdia]

Thank you for your reply ,hello Pam, yes this is correct. I have baptism for Thomas 12/11/1837 st lukes. Baptism for Hannah 29/11/1831 st lukes Baptism for Ann Elizabeth 13/3/1842


Perdia

[geneius]

She was born at the chamberlains arms public house in noble st.

Father Thomas was not the licensee in 1826 -1829

[Sandyhall]

Have you ruled out this marriage

Marriages Sep 1844
Elizabeth GRAINGER, Marylebone, Vol no 1, Page no 240.
(don't rule out the different spelling of name)
one of these is her spouse
william Barnet
George Brown
James Hedger
William Wallis

[janbooth]

Could this perhaps be her marriage (source Ancestry London Parish Registers):

4 October 1851 at Rotherhithe Lewis Matthias PHILLIPPS, full age, Widower, Coffee House Keeper, Rotherhithe, father John PHILLIPPS, Farmer, & Elizabeth GRANGER, full age, spinster, Rotherhithe, father Thomas GRANGER, Licensed Victualler. Witnesses: Louisa Sophia MOBBS & Robt MOORE.

The 1861 census of Islington St Mary (RG9/131, folio 70, page 27) shows Lewis (mistranscribed as Davis by Ancestry) M PHILLIPS, born c1806 in Pembrokeshire, living at 3 William Street North together with wife Elizabeth, born c1829 Clerkenwell, & children Lewis, Elizabeth & Henry, so this Elizabeth PHILLIPS nee GRANGER could certainly be a candidate for your Elizabeth GRANGER. 1851 census shows Lewis PHILLIPS as a widowed Coffee House Keeper living in Southwark (HO107/1559, folio 54, page 7). See what you think, anyway.

Janet

[perdia]

Thank you Janet, are you able to get a copy of the 1851 census for Lewis Phillips?

[janbooth]

No, terms and conditions preclude sending actual copies of records I'm afraid. However, the marriage that Sandy found in post 5 took place on 1 September 1844 at St Marylebone between William BARNET, full age, Mason, & Elizabeth GRAINGER and she does state that her father is Thos GRAINGER, Victualler, but also states that she is of full age.

Baptism at Clerkenwell St James on 24 June 1827 for Elizabeth daughter of Thomas & Elizabeth GRANGER, Allen Street, Servant
Baptism at St Luke Finsbury on 18 October 1829 (born Sep 23) for Hannah daughter of Thomas & Elizabeth GRANGER, Noble Street, Brewer
Baptism at St Luke Finsbury on 5 February 1832 (born 29 Nov 1831 presumably) for Hannah daughter of Thomas & Elizabeth GRANGER, Noble Street, Labourer
Baptism at St Luke Finsbury on 10 November 1833 (born 30 Sep) Susanna daughter of Thomas & Elizabeth GRAINGER, Noble Street, Labourer
Baptised at St Luke Finsbury on 17 July 1836 (born 8 Apr) Sarah daughter of Thomas & Elizabeth GRANGER, Noble Street, Brewery Servant
Baptised 12 November 1837 at St Luke Finsbury (born 17 Oct) Thomas son of Thomas & Elizabeth GRANGER, Noble Street, Victualler
Baptised 13 March 1842 at St Luke Finsbury Ann Elizabeth daughter of Thomas & Elizabeth GRANGER, Noble Street, Victualler
Baptised 14 January 1844 (born 20 Nov) at St Luke Finsbury Charlotte daughter of Thomas & Elizabeth GRANGER, Noble Street, Victualler

Just in case you have not found all of these previously.

Daughter Ann Elizabeth married William BROADHEAD on 30 September 1862 at St Luke - you may already have this.

Janet

[Sandyhall]

Thanks for posting all this I had found it all but have a 2 1/2 year old to look after eccccccc.

[janbooth]

Keeps you young, doesn't it. I will have our 21 month old grandson tomorrow morning, so the afternoon will be spent recovering!!

Janet