Bigamy? Lost a Lillycrapp

[almach]

Hi Mrs P

I'm assuming this 1861 census is your ancestors as there's an Elizabeth Baker age 60 with them
RG 9; Piece: 677; Folio: 133; Page: 34

Another Thomas Lillycrap born c. 1820 Plymouth is a ship worker (lamp training) in 1861, he's described as single, I haven't located him in 1851, hmm could he be the one in London in 1851, if so it's likely he and Thomas juniors mother weren't married.
RG 9; Piece: 4493; Folio: 174; Page: 2

The Thomas Geneius gave you details for was born circa 1814, so possibly too early to be the one in London in 1851

More searching required.

[geneius]

chrisanel

wives were
Elizabeth Ann BAKER ( Mrs P's family)

Sarah Clatworthy the one Mrs P thought maybe another marriage

Jx

[almach]

The son Thomas in London, 1851, was born Stoke Devon. This could be him in 1861 age 20, born Stoke Devon, an ordinary seaman, Royal Navy. RG 9; Piece: 4441; Folio: 253; Page: 12;

[geneius]

Western Daily Mercury. 29 November 1862

fatal accident in mill-lane.
Guildhall on Monday afternoon, before J. Edmonds, Esq., borough coroner, inquire into the circumatauces attend Lug the death Thomas Lillicrap, who died in the hospital Sunday night from injuries received on the previous Wednesday the Sugar Works, Mill-lane. It

In 1861 Thomas was a messenger, the above was an industrial accident in a Sugar factory?

[geneius]

This is the Thomas married to Sarah
Name:
Thomas or Lillycrapp
Birth Date: Mar 1820
Birth Place: Stoke Dameral, Devon
Service Number: 15628
Reference: ADM 139/157/15628
URL: https://discovery.nationalarchi...

This is likely to be the son of Thomas & Elizabeth

Thomas Lillycrapp
Age: 40
Birth Date: 1846
Death Date : 21 Nov 1886
Death Place: Merchant Marine, At Sea, Great Britain
FHL Film Number: 1483317
Reference ID: pt2 sh1354 pg101ln12
Ship: Chelona

He was a married, a cook died form drowning

[geneius]

1851
Exeter Flying Post 06 March 1851

A Thomas Lillicrap was sentenced to 10 months imprisonment for stealing 20lbs of brass

[MrsPoppy]

Thank you so much for all of that.

So 'my' Thomas was not a bigamist as they were different families.

I have just got to take it all in for a moment.

The newspaper article for 1862 is new to me, so I will be checking that out. I don't have his death certificate just a copy of a mourning card from November 1862 'Suddenly departed'. That is exciting. I will have to order death certificate now to confirm.

Mrs P

[MrsPoppy]

Right - So Thomas in London definitely married Sarah and had a Thomas who went to sea and died in an accident.

The children I have so far for Thomas and Elizabeth Ann are GGGrandfather William Henry born 1845, Thomas Linzie Gate (variations) born Brockenhurst, Hampshire 1843, Elizabeth Georgiana 1848 born Chichester and Urania born Chichester 1850, (died 1851) but I do need to re-visit and re-check the children.

So Christanel I think you found one I haven't seen before.

So did we find my Thomas in 1851?

Mrs P

[MrsPoppy]

I have got to go out but when I come back I am going to have a fresh look at my Lillycrapp family. You have given me a lot of information to go on, Thank you everyone.

Mrs P

[almach]

Right - So Thomas in London definitely married Sarah and had a Thomas who went to sea and died in an accident.

I'm not sure yet, Mrs P, there's more work on this needed. No time now but will take a further look later.

So did we find my Thomas in 1851?

I don't think we did, depends if he is the one in London.

Too many Thomas Lillicraps'