Recording illegitimate child's father name

[arthurk]

Thanks all for your responses. And to address some of the previous helpful suggestions -

William Henry Haslam Partington's mother Ellen Partington was the daughter of Joseph Partington and Mary Isherwood. She was baptized in Deane on April 2, 1820. The family lived in Over Hulton.

This would mean that the James and Ellen that we've been chasing are the wrong ones. The James Haslam and Ellen Partington marriage in Deane in 1843 seems to match up with the adjacent households in the 1851 census, though further research would be needed to confirm this.

I'm wondering how you're sure that Ellen is daughter of Joseph and Mary. If it's on the basis of an age in the 1841 census, bear in mind that ages were rounded down in that census, so anyone aged 20-24 would be recorded as 20. As well as the Ellen baptised in 1820, the index to Deane registers at Ancestry shows a number of other Ellen Partingtons baptised there around that time: one each in 1814 and 1815, and two in 1817. Two of those have a father James, so either could be the one who married James Haslam. Again, more research needed, I think, to confirm just who Ellen is.

In the 1851 census William HY (Henry) Partington was living with his grandparents in Ashton Under Lyne.

The one I've found looks like Parkington, and in a household where he might be the son of an unmarried daughter (HO107/2238 fo395 p7). Is that the one you have?

Ellen is elusive. Only Ellen Partington matching her birthdate in 1841 census was living with the James Partington family who were in Heaton near Deane. Also, if she was married in 1851 why wasn't her son William living with her? I am leaning towards the idea Ellen died sometime in the 1840's.

I'm wondering if it was William who died? (If his parents did marry, he could have been registered under the surname Haslam.)

The solution may be to spend some money and purchase some birth/death certificates.

Yes, though if you have access to censuses and registers online you might want to do some more groundwork first. It seems like there are quite a few families with similar names, so you'll need to start with what you know for definite, and work back one step at a time. Otherwise it's all too easy to take a wrong turn somewhere.

Arthur

[almach]

As Ellen Partingon and James Haslam were married 27th Aug 1843 and William Henry Haslam Partington's birth was registered 4th quarter 1843 (Oct - Dec), and he was christened Nov 1843, it seems unlikely that that Ellen is his mother as the marriage is before WHHP's birth, surely if he's that Ellen's son he would have been registered with surname HASLAM.

[almach]

Hi glclose, Im wondering, do you have some extra information regarding WHHP you could share with us, perhaps a census return post 1851, a marriage or death, anything which may help us to help you? Another record mentioning Haslam as one of his middle names?

[almach]

I've followed a William Partington whose occupation was butcher, who seems to be the one in 1851 living with his grandfather in Ashton under Lyne, he eventually moved to Grimsby, Lincolnshire, is he the chap you are researching?

[geneius]

Is this the correct family ?

1841 CENSUS
HO107; Piece: 541; Book: 6; Civil Parish: Deane; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 9; Folio: 22; Page: 10; Line: 18;
Deane Salford
James Partington 50
Jane Partington 30
May Partington 30
Ellen Partington 20
John Partington 20
Nancy Partington 15
Batsy Partington 15
Robert Partington 10
Willmer Partington 10
Ann Partington 5

1861
RG 9; Piece: 2812; Folio: 28; Page: 49
Dean Mills Halliwell
James Haslam 42
Ellen Haslam 44
Robert Haslam 15
Joseph Haslam 12
James Haslam 8
Peter Haslam 2
Jane Partington 54 sister in law

[glclose]

I've followed a William Partington whose occupation was butcher, who seems to be the one in 1851 living with his grandfather in Ashton under Lyne, he eventually moved to Grimsby, Lincolnshire, is he the chap you are researching?

Yes, that is the one.

[glclose]

Wm HY(Henry) Partington, age 17, apprentice pork butcher, in the 1861 Ashton Under Lyne census living in the William Orme household. William is later found in Grimsby in the yeast importing business apparently tiring of the butchering business. He joined his Uncle Thomas Partington's in Grimsby who also was in the yeast importation business. Thomas and and his nephew William were the same age and are found together in the 1851 census in the Joseph Partington household in Ashton.