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    Default Query - 1939 Register

    I have the 1939 Register image for a Harold EVANS (born in 1925) from Haverstock West R D, Pembrokeshire.


    His date of birth was initially recorded as 2 Sep 25. Above is an entry "26 9 25 WRJ" which is his correct date of birth. Any suggestions on the meaning of "WRJ".


    Also on his father's entry, the number '30' has been entered in the ROLE Column - would that be the number of years in a role, such as "Officer". He was born in 1893.His occupation was recorded as Ship's Rigger.


    As a bonus further down the image I found Harold's grandmother, two uncles and an aunt. They were living at the same house in the 1911 census!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by David Tuson View Post
    His date of birth was initially recorded as 2 Sep 25. Above is an entry "26 9 25 WRJ" which is his correct date of birth. Any suggestions on the meaning of "WRJ".
    If it is handwritten I would suggest they are probably the initials of the person who entered the correction.

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    I did wonder about that, thanks

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    Can only agree with macwil re the WRJ, but I've never (that I can recall) seen any other amendments initialled.

    Hadn't a clue what you meant by 'Role' column so went googling and found that it's column 5, headed O V S P or I. It refers only to institutions and means Officer, Visitor, Servant, Patient, or Inmate.
    https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/h...1939-register/

    Have to say that I don't think it's 30 though - I think the last character is a D. Unless it's '310',
    If you have a sub to FMP, go forward to image 24 and there's entry with an amendment in green ink with 310 written beside it and Harold's father's entry has been amended. Presumably 310 is a code.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pam Downes View Post
    Can only agree with macwil re the WRJ, but I've never (that I can recall) seen any other amendments initialled.

    Hadn't a clue what you meant by 'Role' column so went googling and found that it's column 5, headed O V S P or I. It refers only to institutions and means Officer, Visitor, Servant, Patient, or Inmate.
    https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/h...1939-register/

    Have to say that I don't think it's 30 though - I think the last character is a D. Unless it's '310',
    If you have a sub to FMP, go forward to image 24 and there's entry with an amendment in green ink with 310 written beside it and Harold's father's entry has been amended. Presumably 310 is a code.

    Pam
    Hi Pam
    I had been to the National Archives site to find out what that column meant before posting as I'd never bothered looking at it previously.. I'll go back and see if 310 is a code and hopefully it's meaning.
    Thanks David

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    David,

    Believe it or not, I think I've cracked the 310 code.
    Though it perhaps only applies when it's written in green.

    First of all, don't ask my why I started to check out some of hubby's family tonight, but I was looking at one of them on the 1939 Register and noticed that he had had his entry amended in green and 310 was written by the side of the entry.
    (All names and dates have been altered)
    Original entry - Frederick Browne.
    Amended entry - Frederick Joseph Brown.
    Note that when Frederick died in 1978, his death was registered as Frederick Joseph Brown.

    On another family page I noticed another entry (no relation) with an amendment and 310, both in green.
    Checked that one out.
    Original entry Mary Emma Clark.
    Amended to Mary Harriet Emma Clark.
    Death registration for Mary Harriet E Clark in 1978. Date of birth on death registration is the same as in the 1939 Register.

    I've also checked it out with a third person, same thing applies.
    What these people also have in common is that they died between 1976 and 1979, so the 310 in green code may have only applied in certain years.
    Be interesting if anyone else can report 310 in green codes for years outside of the 1970s.

    ADDED:
    Found two or three more entries, all of whom died in the 1970s. Earliest in 1972.
    But then found one which doesn't 'work'. Can't find a 'suitable' death for her under either surname. So now I'm but still think my original theory correct.

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    Believe it or not, I think I've cracked the 310 code
    Yay! Well done, Pam.

    David, do you know if Harold Evans moved from Pembrokeshire to Swindon, Wiltshire? I ask, as the only information I can find for an abbreviation of three letters applies to area codes, and WRJ is for Swindon. Otherwise the letters probably are a person's initials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Tuson View Post
    I have the 1939 Register image for a Harold EVANS (born in 1925) from Haverstock West R D, Pembrokeshire.

    The place is actually HAVERFORDWEST

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megan Roberts View Post
    The place is actually HAVERFORDWEST
    Oops, silly me, sorry for typing the wrong place name - put it down to old age.

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    From what I have seen 310 is the code for an addition rather than a change.

    Additions such as an initial or a middle name added but not a change of surname such as a change after marriage.

    Some pages that have 310 codes are
    TNA_R39_1122_1122I_012.jpg Forename added

    TNA_R39_1131_1131H_009.jpg two added initials on this page, one with 310 code one without

    TNA_R39_0906_0906B_008.jpg one entry with 310 and a additional initial and two with code CR 285 date MX with additional surname plus additional initial

    TNA_R39_0205_0205G_009.jpg additional forename plus addition initial

    TNA_R39_5735_5735H_011.jpg written in black (grey) ½ MC 310 this entry is Fannie D changed to Fanny Doris

    There is also a dated H/M OX entry in grey which contains a change from Francis to Frances or perhaps a repeat of Francis

    TNA_R39_5802_5802F_017.jpg contains 310 for what seems to be a completely new name and surname placed between two lines of entries.

    There is also another entry dated 310 + NR 29 which is simply an additional surname in green

    TNA_R39_5690_5690H_010.jpg 310 change of spelling of surname
    310 additional forename


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