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    Alice Eliza Rose Birnie born 1888 died a spinster in 1960 St Albans Hertfordshire.
    See post #13 (Now knowing that Alfred Wilson Birnie married an Alice Walker in St Albans this is likely to be his wife's death not his sister's.)

    Searching for more siblings to William John Birnie father of Arthur Harold born 1821.
    1881 census
    4 Rowden? Buildiings St Clement Danes
    John Warren66 resident chef/porter
    John Wilson Warren 18 son
    Eliza Julia Birnie 33 dau married Windsor
    William Birnie 34 son-in-law Railway clerk Chelsea
    Emlin Alice Birnie 5 granddaughter St Pancras birth reg Dec 1/4 1875
    Caroline C. Louisa Birnie 3 granddaughter St Pancras
    Hilda Maud Birnie 2 granddaughter St Pancras On GRO index correct. On FreeBMD - Birnir
    Florence Polly Birnie 9 months St Pancras Sept 1/4 1880
    Annie Amelia Buston 18 servant St Pancras
    Rosa Cecelia Barber16 nursemaid St Pancras
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    1891 census there are 3 more children
    William 8 (Arthur Harold's dad) William John Sept 1/4 1882
    Alfred 6 Alfred Wilson Walter March 1/4 1885
    Alice 2 Alice Eliza Rose who we have already eliminated. died a spinster.

    1911 census
    Alfred Wilson Walter Birnie 26 House Painter, married, born Middle Temple, London
    Alice Birnie 23 wife, straw hat trimmer married 2 years no children.

    Alfred married an Alice Walker in St Albans district June 1/4 1908.
    On the GRO index to 1915 I can't find any children Birnie mmn Walker.

    On FreeBMD there are two births Birnie mmn Walker in St Albans. A daughter 1919 and a son 1921

    Death
    Alfred W W Birnie
    Sept 1961
    Age 76
    St Albans Hertfordshire
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    Quote Originally Posted by christanel View Post
    Alice Eliza Rose Birnie born 1888 died a spinster in 1960 St Albans Hertfordshire.
    Now knowing that Alfred Wilson Birnie married an Alice Walker in St Albans this is likely to be his wife's death not his sister's.

    Christina
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    Daughter of Alfred Wilson W Birnie [brother to William John Birnie (father of Arthur Harold]
    Mollie Birnie 1919–1994
    born 1919 St Albans, Hertfordshire
    married 1940 Kenneth Ernest Mony (1916–2003))


    Mollie died 1994 Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire


    Children of this marriage - two sons 1943 and 1945 St Albans
    The son born 1943 married in St Albans 1966


    There are two daughter's births with the surnames of this 1943 marriage.
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    One in March 1/4 1967 Luton reg district vol 4a page 366
    Sept 1/4 1972 Northampton vol 3b page 1977 This one married in September 1/4 2000
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    Davran
    I will send you a private message with the names of the still living descendants of Alfred Wilson W Birnie [brother to William John Birnie (father of Arthur Harold)

    Christina
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