Griffins of Chipping Campden

[Chris-history]

I am researching the children of John Griffin (born 1765 in Broad Campden) and Ann Leadbetter (or Leadbeater).
There is a Gloucestershire Church of England baptism record in Chipping Campden on 23rd June 1811 for Elizabeth and William Griffin to parents John and Ann Griffin. There are two question marks as the mother Ann would be about 46 and the two children both have birthdates in 1811 which is impossible (22nd February and 12th April).
Are there two John and Ann Griffins or are the birth dates wrong?
There is also an 1841 census showing Ann, John and William living in Broad Camden (hamlet), an 1851 census record from Chipping Camden showing an 87 year old John Griffin (pauper and widow) living with a 38 year old son William. I can't find anything about an Elizabeth.
Does anyone have any other info about this family?
Thank you

[christanel]

This is the 1841 census for those wishing to help
HO107 Piece 360 Book 26 Folio 7 Page 8
Hamlet of Broad Chipping Campden
John Griffin 75
Ann Griffin 70
William Griffin 25
Richard Griffin 15 (on the next page)
All born in county. The ages have been rounded down to the nearest five. No relationships given in 1841 census so not known what relationship William and Richard are to John and Ann.

1851 HO107 Piece 2076 Folio 176 Page 12
Chipping Camden
John Griffin 87 pauper (labourer)
William Griffin 38 son Gardener
Philip Baldwin 46 Lodger
All born Broad Chipping Camden

There is this Elizabeth Griff*n in 1841

HO107 Piece 353 Book 7 Folio 36 Page 29
Cheltenham Gloucestershire
Sarah Bread 25
Hanah Varny 70
Mary Thorns 15
Elizabeth Griffin 30 Ind Born inCounty? yes
John Griffin 2 yes.
Thos Young 33
Harriett Young 30
Jane Young 10
There is a William Griffen on the opposite page age 23? with a Mary Griffin 20, not born in County and a James age 2 NO. On next page first entry Ann Griffen age 20 Yes

Christina

[janbooth]

There is a burial record in the parish register of Chipping Campden for an Elizth GRIFFIN aged 2 of this parish on 30 May 1812 - could this be your Elizabeth daughter of John & Ann?? Perhaps her date of birth should have read 22 February 1810 which would make much more sense.

Janet

[Sandyhall]

Possible children


Thomas Griffin

Christening Date 05 Jan 1791
Christening Place CHIPPING CAMPDEN,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND
Father's Name John Griffin
Mother's Name Ann

William Griffin

Christening Date 03 Nov 1793
Christening Place CHIPPING CAMPDEN,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND
Father's Name John Griffin
Mother's Name Ann

John Griffin

Christening Date 29 Apr 1796
Christening Place CHIPPING CAMPDEN,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND
Father's Name John Griffin
Mother's Name Ann

These are Christening Dates not Birth Dates

[Sandyhall]

When did John and Ann get married

Well just answered my question

Name John Griffin
Spouse's Name Ann Leadbeater
Event Date 05 Nov 1789
Event Place Chipping Campden,Gloucester,England

England Marriages, 1538–1973, Indexing Project (Batch) Number M02621-2

No other marriages on that Batch no for John Griffin to a Ann

[Sandyhall]

There are other christening's of children in Chipping Campden on this batch no C02621-1 on Family Search
but only have the father's name as John

James Griffin
Christening Date 23 Nov 1791, Christening Place CHIPPING CAMPDEN,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND, Father's Name John Griffin

Joseph Griffin
Christening Date 12 Apr 1799, Christening Place CHIPPING CAMPDEN,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND, Father's Name John.

George Griffin
Christening Date 17 Jul 1803, Christening Place CHIPPING CAMPDEN,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND, Father's Name John
Ann Griffin
Christening Date 17 Jul 1803, Christening Place CHIPPING CAMPDEN,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND, Father's Name John
Double Christening

Hannah Griffin
Christening Date 16 Dec 1807, Christening Place CHIPPING CAMPDEN,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND, Father's Name John

Elizabeth Griffin
Christening Date 23 Jun 1811, Christening Place CHIPPING CAMPDEN,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND, Father's Name John
William Griffin
Christening Date 23 Jun 1811, Christening Place CHIPPING CAMPDEN,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND, Father's Name John
Double Christening I take it these are the 2 you have already

Double Christenings could be Twins but then could also be just that there was no Vicar to do the job

[Sandyhall]

Ann Ledbeater

Christening Date 04 Jan 1766
Christening Place CHIPPING CAMPDEN,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND
Father's Name William

[Chris-history]

That sounds very likely. Thank you for your help
Chris

There is a burial record in the parish register of Chipping Campden for an Elizth GRIFFIN aged 2 of this parish on 30 May 1812 - could this be your Elizabeth daughter of John & Ann?? Perhaps her date of birth should have read 22 February 1810 which would make much more sense.

Janet

[Chris-history]

Thank you for your help Sandy.

Ann Ledbeater

Christening Date 04 Jan 1766
Christening Place CHIPPING CAMPDEN,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND
Father's Name William

[Chris-history]

Thank you very much for all of your time and all of this information.
Regards
Chris

There are other christening's of children in Chipping Campden on this batch no C02621-1 on Family Search
but only have the father's name as John

James Griffin
Christening Date 23 Nov 1791, Christening Place CHIPPING CAMPDEN,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND, Father's Name John Griffin

Joseph Griffin
Christening Date 12 Apr 1799, Christening Place CHIPPING CAMPDEN,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND, Father's Name John.

George Griffin
Christening Date 17 Jul 1803, Christening Place CHIPPING CAMPDEN,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND, Father's Name John
Ann Griffin
Christening Date 17 Jul 1803, Christening Place CHIPPING CAMPDEN,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND, Father's Name John
Double Christening

Hannah Griffin
Christening Date 16 Dec 1807, Christening Place CHIPPING CAMPDEN,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND, Father's Name John

Elizabeth Griffin
Christening Date 23 Jun 1811, Christening Place CHIPPING CAMPDEN,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND, Father's Name John
William Griffin
Christening Date 23 Jun 1811, Christening Place CHIPPING CAMPDEN,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND, Father's Name John
Double Christening I take it these are the 2 you have already

Double Christenings could be Twins but then could also be just that there was no Vicar to do the job