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    If you look at the return, the place of George's birth is slightly indecipherable.

    I consider the give away is Robert MILLER 'lodger' it is likely to be Mary Jane's brother

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    Mother Mary Jane LEE widow is an in patient in 1911

    RG14; Piece: 22552; Page: 11 Mental Ward West Derby Inf

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    Thanks everyone
    Here's my Charlie on An****







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    Quote Originally Posted by toffeetower View Post
    Thanks everyone
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    Do you guys think I've got the right people then please? Also Robert,Mark and James all born in 1891 which two are the twins and is it possible I've got the middle names of some of them as a person ie Mark James or Robert Charlie etc all born 1891...my Charlie born born 1893?

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    Here's what I have on Charles father George







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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandyhall View Post
    Children of George Lee and Mary Jane as found in the Census (Tell me if I am wrong please)

    Catherine Lee. BIRTH 1878 • Everton, Liverpool, Lancashire, England. 1891 Census
    Annie Lee. BIRTH ABT 1878 • Everton, Lancashire, England. 1881 Census
    could be twins

    John Lee. BIRTH ABT 1879 • Everton, Lancashire, England. 1881, 1891, Census
    William Lee. BIRTH 1881 • Everton, Lancashire, England. 1881,1891, 1901 Census
    Elizabeth Lee. BIRTH 1884 • Everton, Liverpool, Lancashire, England. 1891, 1901 Census
    George Lee. BIRTH 1886 • Everton, Liverpool, Lancashire, England. 1891, 1901 Census
    Harry Lee. BIRTH 1887 • Everton, Liverpool, Lancashire, England. 1901 Census
    Albert Lee. BIRTH 1889 • Everton, Liverpool, Lancashire, England. 1891, 1911 Census

    Charles Lee. BIRTH 1890 • Everton, Liverpool, Lancashire, England. 1891, 1901, 1911 Census
    Robert Lee. BIRTH 1890 • Everton, Liverpool, Lancashire, England. 1891 Census
    Could be twins

    Mark Lee. BIRTH 1891 • Everton, Liverpool, Lancashire, England. 1901, 1911 Census
    James Lee. BIRTH 1891 • Everton, Liverpool, Lancashire, England.1911 Census
    could be twins

    Charles Horatio Lee. BIRTH APRIL 1893 • West Derby, Lancashire
    DEATH NOV 1984 • Liverpool, Lancashire, England
    Only found his Birth and Marriage records.
    So that's why I was confused they had two lots of twins...I'm thinking Charles of the twins must have died young for them to name another child Charles Ie my Charles Horatio Lee ! Thanks

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    Mary Jane LEE

    Birth year 1856
    Age 65
    Death quarter 4
    Death year 1921
    District LIVERPOOL
    County Lancashire
    Volume 8B Page 28


    Catherine A Lee
    Birth:*abt 1878
    Death:Sep 1940* - Liverpool North, Lancashire, England

    George Lee
    Estimated birth year: abt 1853
    Registration Year: 1898
    Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
    Age at Death: 45
    Registration district: West Derby
    Volume: 8b Page: 233

    John R H Lee
    Birth Date: abt 1879
    Date of Registration: Sep 1939
    Age at Death: 60
    Registration district:Liverpool North
    Volume: 8b
    Page: 581

    Is this William Gwilliam

    Name: William Lee
    Marital Status: Single
    Age: 20
    Birth Date: 1881
    Marriage Date: 12 Aug 1901
    Marriage Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
    Father: George Lee
    Spouse: Sarah Herbert
    FHL Film Number: 93941
    Reference ID: it524, p170, no339

    Think you have a child missing from your listing

    1901
    William Lee 20 = William Gwilliam
    Elizabeth Lee 17 = Harriett Elizabeth
    George Lee 16 = George missing from your family tree
    Harry Lee 14 ? ( see Thomas Henry below)
    Mark Lee 10 of twin
    Charles Lee 8 = Chas H

    Thomas Henry Lee
    Mother:*Mary Jane Lee
    Father:*George Lee
    Birth:*22 Apr 1887
    Baptism:*6 May 1887 - Everton, St Chad with Christ Church, Lancashire

    Can be found on 1939 Register Waldgrave Road Liverpool wife Lilian child Leslie b 1911

    Sandyhall's list

    Catherine Annie b 1878

    Catherine Lee. BIRTH 1878 • Everton, Liverpool, Lancashire, England. 1891 Census
    Annie Lee. BIRTH ABT 1878 • Everton, Lancashire, England. 1881 Census
    could be twins = NO

    John Lee. BIRTH ABT 1879 • Everton, Lancashire, England. 1881, 1891, Census
    William Lee. BIRTH 1881 • Everton, Lancashire, England. 1881,1891, 1901 Census
    Elizabeth Lee. BIRTH 1884 • Everton, Liverpool, Lancashire, England. 1891, 1901 Census
    George Lee. BIRTH 1886 • Everton, Liverpool, Lancashire, England. 1891, 1901 Census
    Harry Lee. BIRTH 1887 • Everton, Liverpool, Lancashire, England. 1901 Census Thomas Henry b 22/08/1887
    Albert Lee. BIRTH 1889 • Everton, Liverpool, Lancashire, England. 1891, 1911 Census

    Charles Lee. BIRTH 1890 • Everton, Liverpool, Lancashire, England. 1891, 1901, 1911 Census
    Robert Lee. BIRTH 1890 • Everton, Liverpool, Lancashire, England. 1891 Census
    Could be twins Are TWINS renamed Mark & James see below

    Mark Lee. BIRTH 1891 • Everton, Liverpool, Lancashire, England. 1901, 1911 Census
    James Lee. BIRTH 1891 • Everton, Liverpool, Lancashire, England.1911 Census
    could be twins YES

    Charles Horatio Lee. BIRTH APRIL 1893 • West Derby, Lancashire
    DEATH NOV 1984 • Liverpool, Lancashire, England
    Only found his Birth and Marriage records

    You need to re visit your tree looking at each person individually and comparing what is produced on this forum. There may still be some queries, the children seem to use alternate forenames!

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    Births. Dec 1879. Catherine Jane Lee. W. Derby 8b 320
    (W. Derby - inclueds the districts of Everton, Everton North, Everton North West, Everton, Everton South East)
    or
    Births. Mar 1878. Catherine Margaret Lee Liverpool 8b 35
    on the same page Mary Lee Liverpool 8b 35
    this means they are twins

    Search for a Catherine Annie Lee. Start date: Mar 1875, End date: Dec 1895. District: all, County: all,
    gave no hits on FreeBMD


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    I have come to the conclusion that the parents couldn't agree what name to give their children!

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    Also 2 George's as first George died when he's 13 hence 2nd George Frederick Lee brn 1892

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    Quote Originally Posted by geneius View Post
    I have come to the conclusion that the parents couldn't agree what name to give their children!
    Hahahaha I agree....They didn't think about us doing this Ancstery malarkey years later...the selfish gits. Haha.

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