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    So much success with this wonderful site I thought I would try this!

    These may be the family "skeletons" that nobody wants to find, but it intrigues me (perversely)...and for the record.

    I have already "smudged my copybook" with Aus relatives Suggesting this mode of travel paid by the Crown!

    Our family (Motteram) appears in Birmingham, Staffordshire thru the 1800's. and then a migration to Barrow-in-Furness about 1865 (iron, steel, ship-building). There are many instances of marriages, etc that indicate a time in Liverpool and surrounds. About 1890 the family appeared to fragment from Barrow with two boys going to Australia, one daughter to S Africa, one son to the USA (my relative) and two remained in Barrow (UK).

    The enigma is Henry Motteram.

    I have no connection of him to any of our family, only this record:

    Henry Motteram sentenced to 20 yrs transportation to Aus at Chester Crown Court 1850.
    He was one of 209 convicts on the ship Mermaid sailed on 30 Dec 1850. Arrived on 13 May 1851 at Swan River (Perth) Western Aus.


    Is there any way to extract family information (lineage) from this record?

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    An entry (of several) on FMP -
    Name - Henry Motteram; Age - 23; Offence - Robbery (armed); Where - Chester; When - 31 March 1849; Sentence - 20 yrs; Surgeon's Report - Good health; Behaviour - V. good; embarked for W. Australia on ship "Mermaid" 28 Dec 1850.
    "dyfal donc a dyr y garreg"

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    The London Evening Standard, 6 April 1849, carries a report of the trial. It gives Henry Mottram's age as 23.
    "dyfal donc a dyr y garreg"

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    1841 Census
    Henry Motram, 15, occpn. M.S, born in County (Cheshire)
    Address - Eddisbury, Delamare, Northwich, Cheshire

    The report of the trial the London Evening Standard begins -
    "Henry Mottram, 23, John Watson, 18, and John Martin, 15, were indicted for a highway robbery, with violence, at Delamare".

    Sadly, the Henry Motram on the '41 Census is not with his family.
    "dyfal donc a dyr y garreg"

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    Quote Originally Posted by helachau View Post
    1841 Census
    Henry Motram, 15, occpn. M.S, born in County (Cheshire)
    Address - Eddisbury, Delamare, Northwich, Cheshire

    The report of the trial the London Evening Standard begins -
    "Henry Mottram, 23, John Watson, 18, and John Martin, 15, were indicted for a highway robbery, with violence, at Delamare".

    Sadly, the Henry Motram on the '41 Census is not with his family.
    Also, that spelling usually denotes another unrelated group of people, but I've never seen our surname spelled the same in my life. Some get pretty creative. Spelling isn't very reliable in these searches. V good address info. what do you think "occpn M.S." indicates?

    I'm also trying to track this individual in Australia. Thanx

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    "M.S" - usually "Male Servant"
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    1970's in Kenya, Robbery w violence was a hanging offense!

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    Quote Originally Posted by esmotteram View Post
    Also, that spelling usually denotes another unrelated group of people, but I've never seen our surname spelled the same in my life. Some get pretty creative. Spelling isn't very reliable in these searches. V good address info. what do you think "occpn M.S." indicates?

    I'm also trying to track this individual in Australia. Thanx



    Henry Mottram, prisoner, was my GGG grandfather. This Fremantle Prisons records shows varied names, but he settled on Mottram and married Anna Maria or Anne Banyard in 1870.

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    Quote Originally Posted by esmotteram View Post
    So much success with this wonderful site I thought I would try this!

    These may be the family "skeletons" that nobody wants to find, but it intrigues me (perversely)...and for the record.

    I have already "smudged my copybook" with Aus relatives Suggesting this mode of travel paid by the Crown!

    Our family (Motteram) appears in Birmingham, Staffordshire thru the 1800's. and then a migration to Barrow-in-Furness about 1865 (iron, steel, ship-building). There are many instances of marriages, etc that indicate a time in Liverpool and surrounds. About 1890 the family appeared to fragment from Barrow with two boys going to Australia, one daughter to S Africa, one son to the USA (my relative) and two remained in Barrow (UK).

    The enigma is Henry Motteram.

    I have no connection of him to any of our family, only this record:

    Henry Motteram sentenced to 20 yrs transportation to Aus at Chester Crown Court 1850.
    He was one of 209 convicts on the ship Mermaid sailed on 30 Dec 1850. Arrived on 13 May 1851 at Swan River (Perth) Western Aus.


    Is there any way to extract family information (lineage) from this record?
    Hi,
    He's my GGG grandfather. The convict record below shows a variation of surname, and him as being semi literate.
    I have Henry's parents as being Joseph Mottram and Hannah Capper.
    The story in the Chester Chronicle newspaper shows his name as Motteram, but the transportation registers show Mottram, along with his co felon, Henry Watson.

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    Tiffanffg, G'day and thanx
    Unexpected and appreciated reply.
    More pieces of the puzzle. I don't recocognize parent names in our genealogy but I am vague about details of family at the time and place ( Chester 1840-1850).
    Down under, I have many relatives from WA, Perth, Swan but I believe they populated the area in the 1880-1890s. Many more on the east coast...
    In the U.K. I have never connected the families Mottram to families Motteram. Maybe just haven't gone deep enough.

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