1871
RG10 piece 654 folio 33 page: 8
In the household of
Mary A Thomas 48 manager to master baker
William Willetts 54 Married, baker journeyman. Leeds
William Jones 31
The household above this one is that of a master baker.
Christina
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09-07-2016, 11:19 PM #11Sometimes paranoia is just having all the facts.
William Burroughs
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10-07-2016, 12:28 AM #12
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It seems William has got himself onto the 1871 Census twice, Christina.
RG10 648 48 12
Duke Street, Lambeth
William WILLETS 54 Baker Journeyman
Louise WILLETS 57
Emma WILLETS 31 Book Folder
All born Bethnal Green!
Peter
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10-07-2016, 12:35 AM #13
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...........and you're right about Lizzie being his second wife:
Louisa WILLETTS died Lambeth 1874 aged 61. Q4 1D 245
William WILLETTS married Lambeth 1875 Q3 1D 749
to either Judith Elizabeth TEAR or Elizabeth SADLIER
Either one could be Lizzie.
Peter
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Trouble is, the daughter Emma's age is at odds with Mrs Richardson's age (24) on the passenger list.
Emma would appear to have been born between 1833 and 1840, which makes her between 37 and 44 at the time of the sailing.
Perhaps the passenger list should say 42 instead of 24!
I haven't been able to find a birth for Emma.
Peter
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10-07-2016, 4:43 AM #16
Good finds Peter
Mistranscription of the 's' at the end of the name from the original image.
1851 HO107 piece 1565 folio 426 page 16
7 Barrons Place St George the Martyr Southwark
William Willette 35 Biscuit baker, born Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Louisa Willette Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Emma Willette 5 Bethnal Green, Middlesex
So this is probably a more accurate age for Emma but still no certainty for a birth reg.Sometimes paranoia is just having all the facts.
William Burroughs
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10-07-2016, 5:05 AM #17
Ah ha
Wonder if this is Emma's birth reg?
March 1/4 1843 Emma Willats registration district Bethnall Green vol 2 page 40
Having taken a very good look at the image for 1851 I think her age should be 7 taking into account all the lines and slashes sothis birth reg would fit.
Of course we have nothing to fit this Emma to being the wife of Martin Richardson yet.
ChristinaSometimes paranoia is just having all the facts.
William Burroughs
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10-07-2016, 10:35 AM #18janboothGuest
Not too sure how accurate the ages are on the Passenger List records. They certainly have Martin's age out by at least 3 years.
I have found a US Passenger List record for an Emma WILLETT, aged 29, born England, on board the "Siberia" which embarked from Liverpool and arrived at Boston on 20 May 1873. This would give Emma a birthdate of c1844, which would certainly fit in with the Emma WILLETT aged 7 in Middlesex in the census records already found, but if it is the correct family, her mother would still be alive when she emigrated to the US. However, she may well have been in contact with family members and thus know that her mother had died and her father remarried?? I cannot find a likely Emma WILLETT(S) in the 1880 US census - so far. However, I have found a marriage record in Boston in 1883 for an Emma WILLETTE, 39, 2nd marriage, to a William LAWRENSON, 39, second marriage, both sets of parents shown as John & Elizabeth, and both were born in England, so this could well be the Emma WILLETT who came over on the Siberia. So probably back to square 1 on this Emma.
Will keep looking.
Janet
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10-07-2016, 11:20 AM #19
Oh my ... I'm am just reading through all the replies and absorbing the information. Thank you all so much.
Back soon.
Mrs P
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10-07-2016, 6:18 PM #20
Some very good leads here. I've had another look and I still cannot see a possible marriage for Martin. The Willett and variants I'm going to do some more research on tonight.
Christanel - I checked the Martindale chap out but I think he was born 1820's.
Peter, I think 'ill in hospital' makes more sense. A lot of the family were Methodists. I haven't been able to find them on any census here or abroad after the 1861.
MTS - thank you for looking.
Jan- those census look very promising. Shame that Willett didn't pan out.
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