Bates/England Marriage

[JandL]

Am researching Charles William (or WC) Bates and Ellen England who married in Halifax district June qtr 1901 Is anyone able to look up who their respective parents were, as I Thank you in antication

[almach]

The marriage certificate doesn't appear to be on Ancestry's "west Yorkshire Marriages" this suggests the couple married in the Register Office, in which case the only way to know their parents for sure is to buy the certificate.

There is this 1911 census which could be them and if so gives you their ages and birth places.

Hazlehead Penistone Sheffield [Thurlstone Parish] RG14; Piece: 27651
W Charles Bates 36, commercial traveller, Deepcar
Ellen Bates 32, Fulstone, married 10yrs, 8 children, 7 living.
Donald Bates 9, Hepworth
Clarice Bates 7, Hepworth
Kathleen Bates 3, Penistone
Ivie Bates 2, Penistone
Gerald Bates 1, Penistone
Florence Bates 6/12, Penistone

[almach]

1901, Haley Hill, Northowram, Halifax. RG13; Piece: 4137; Folio: 161; Page: 12
Andrew England 47, stockinette machine manager, New Mill
Annis England 48, Thurlstone
Ellen England 22, New Mill, (Fulstone is a part of New Mill)
Edith England 20, New Mill
Clara England 18, New Mill
Sarah England 14, New Mill
Emily England 12, New Mill
John England 9, New Mill
James William England 7, New Mill

[almach]

JandL, I can't definitely pin down William Charles Bates in the census records. If another member here doesn't give it a go, I'll try again tomorrow.

[JandL]

Thank you ever so much Alma. I agree Andrew and Annis appear to be parents of Ellen (whose line I am trying to follow for an elderly friend). Annis may be the daughter of a John Turner. I found a birth on Freebdm 1853 for an Annis Turner, and 1854 for an Andrew England. Then stumped again. Unfortunately my current subs to Ancestry has expired, so it is a wee bit difficult. William Charles Bates remains elusive. However, do appreciate your help very much.

[almach]

Thank you ever so much Alma. I agree Andrew and Annis appear to be parents of Ellen (whose line I am trying to follow for an elderly friend). Annis may be the daughter of a John Turner. I found a birth on Freebdm 1853 for an Annis Turner, and 1854 for an Andrew England. Then stumped again. Unfortunately my current subs to Ancestry has expired, so it is a wee bit difficult. William Charles Bates remains elusive. However, do appreciate your help very much.

My pillow is calling me, but I'll look further into it tomorrow. In the meantime I'm sure you'll get help from other members. Good luck

[almach]

Thank you ever so much Alma. I agree Andrew and Annis appear to be parents of Ellen (whose line I am trying to follow for an elderly friend). Annis may be the daughter of a John Turner. I found a birth on Freebdm 1853 for an Annis Turner, and 1854 for an Andrew England. Then stumped again. Unfortunately my current subs to Ancestry has expired, so it is a wee bit difficult. William Charles Bates remains elusive. However, do appreciate your help very much.

That marriage is online, I'll give some concise info.

Jul 10th Christ Church, New Mill.
Andrew England 21, stoker, Jackson Bridge, father John a miner
Annis Turner, 21, (abode looks like Hullocks???) father James a farmer
Witnesses - faint writing both England's, one definitely Martha, the other not sure, could be James.
OK, bedtime for me.

[almach]

To help with Annis' parents and siblings

1871, Hullock, Fulstone New Mill. RG10; Piece: 4351; Folio: 25; Page: 14;
James Tumer 45, farmer, Fulston
Sarah Tumer 40, Hepworth
Mary Tumer 20, Hepworth
Annis Tumer 18, Thurlstone
Sarah A Tumer 16, Thurlstone
Jim Tumer 12, Thurlstone
Sam Tumer 10, Thurlstone
John Tumer 8, Hepworth
Emma Tumer 6, Hepworth
Allen Tumer 2, Fulstone
Richard Haigh 15, nephew, Hepworh

[almach]

Two James Turners married Sarah's in 1849 at Kirkburton All Hallows which was the parish church for Hepworth and Fulstone etc.
The possible brides are Sarah Hinchliffe and Sarah HAIGH (a Richard Haigh nephew is with them in 1871, so perhaps she's the bride?)

Haigh/Turner (a miner) his father is James a labourer
Hinchliffe/Turner (a mason) father John a mason

[almach]

Turner's are a nightmare to sort out in the Huddersfield district, there's so many of them, I have a direct line of Turner's in the area and it took me ages to work out.