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    I think it is too complicated, and I don't wish you to waste your time on this problem. The website I found the Haigh info was https://jearnshaw.me.uk.tree/5/6452/htm, but I have no idea whether it is correct or not. Do appreciated your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JandL View Post
    I think it is too complicated, and I don't wish you to waste your time on this problem. The website I found the Haigh info was https://jearnshaw.me.uk.tree/5/6452/htm, but I have no idea whether it is correct or not. Do appreciated your help.
    OK, I'll leave you to sort it out. Good luck
    Alma

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    Hi, in answer to your message I'm posting these records, hope they help.

    1881, West Bromwich, Staffordshire. RG11; Piece: 2847; Folio: 69; Page: 21;
    William H. Bates 30, brick and tile maker, Sedgley Staffs
    Annie Bates 28, Tipton Staffs
    William C. Bates 6, unclear, but could say Unshelf, there's a HUNSHELF near Deepcar
    Lucy W.C. Bates 4, Tipton
    Leonard Bates 3, Tipton
    Charlotte Bates 1, West Bromwich.

    1891, Hepworth, Wooldale, Yorkshire. RG12; Piece: 3559; Folio: 136; Page: 6;
    William Bates 40, married, brickmaker, Sedgley
    Charles Bates 16, brickmaker, Penistone
    Lucy Bates 14, Tipton
    Leonard Bates 13, brickmaker, Tipton
    Charlotte Bates 11, West Bromwich
    Emmy Bates 9, West Bromwich
    Daniel Bates 7, West Bromwich
    Alma

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    May 18th 1872 at Parish Church, Penistone
    William Hill Bates, 21, brickmaker, Hunshelf, father John Charles Bates
    Annie Walters, 19, Hunshelf, father William
    witnesses: Ellen Maria Bates and Daniel Blackham Bates
    Alma

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    As yet I haven't found the family in 1901.

    1911, Hazlehead, Nr Sheffield, RG14; Piece: 27651
    Annie Bates 58, widow, married 39yrs, 10 children, 8 still living, Bloomfield Staffs
    Dan Bates 27, brick setter, West Bromwich
    Arthur Bates 22, postman, Bloomfield
    Elsie Bates 19, school teacher, Bloomfield
    Harry Belcher 30, son in law, chimney pot maker, Crowedge, Yorks
    Emmie Belcher 29, dau, West Bromwich, married under 1yr
    Alma

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    1871, Woodsetton, Sedgley
    John C Bates 46, fire brickmaker, Bewdley Worcestershire
    Ellen M Bates 44, Sedgley
    William H Bates 20, fire brickmaker, Sedgley
    Daniel B Bates 17, labourer, Rawmarsh Yorkshire
    Ellen M Bates 15, Elland Yorkshire
    John C Bates 12, Oldbury Worcestershire
    James Bates 8, Sedgley
    Mary L Bates 4, Tipton.

    1861, Sedgley
    John C Bates, 36, brickmaker, Upper Arley Salop
    Hellen M Bates, 34, Sedgley
    Charlotte Bates, 12 ,Sedgley
    William H Bates, 10, Sedgley
    Daniel B Bates, 6, Rawmarsh
    Hellen M Bates, 4, Elland
    John Ch's Bates, 2, Oldbury

    1851, Sedgley
    John C Bates 26, brickmaker, Bewdley
    Helen M Bates 23, Sedgley
    Charlotte I Bates 3, Sedgley
    William Bates 1 Mo, Sedgley

    1881, Hepworth, Yorks
    John C. Bates 56, brickmaker, Bewdley
    Lucy Bates 47, Tipton
    Daniel B. Bates 27, brick setter, Rawmarsh
    John C. Bates 22, labourer, Oldbury
    James Bates 17, labourer, Gornal Staffordshire
    Mary L. Bates 13, Tipton
    Richard H. Bates 2, Deepcar Yorks
    Emily M. Wood 24, step dau, Tipton

    1891, Thurlstone Yorks.
    John Chas Bates 67, brickmaker, Bewdley
    Lucy Bates 57, Tipton
    Richard H Bates 12, Deepcar

    1901, Burslem, Staffordshire
    Henry Deakin 57, brickmaker, Trent Vale Staffs
    Ellen Deakin 45, greengrocer shopkeeper, Elland Yorks
    Albert Deakin 20, son, saddlers apprentice, Crow Edge Yorks
    John C Bates 76, father in law, brickworks manager, Bewdley

    I've found lots more on these folks, but it will have to wait.
    Alma

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    That is a fantastic amount of interesting information. I am glad I persevered with the bdms and relayed them to you to assist me. My friend is 87 herself, and she is going to be overwhelmed with her history I am sure. Greatly appreciate your input.

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    Marriages Jun 1847, Dudley, vol 18, page 480
    John Charles Bates/Helen Maria Hill

    Deaths Jun 1871, Dudley, vol 6c, page 38
    Ellen Bates age 43.

    In 1881 JCB is with wife Lucy

    Marriages Sep 1876, Wortley, vol 9c, page 268
    John Charles Bates/Lucy Wood
    Alma

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    Aug 22 1876, Penistone St John the Baptist
    John Charles Bates, widower, brickmaker, Deepcar, father John Bates a fire brickmaker
    Lucy Wood, widow of Tipton, father James Whitehead an agent,
    Witnesse: George Peace and Elizabeth Hallam
    Alma

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    Is Nuneaton far away from all the other areas JC Bates lived? There is an 80 yr old JCB dying there in 1905? Are you not sleeping today?

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