Maurice Francis served on board HMS Adventure, a Cruiser Minelayer. On 11th November she left the Humber and on 13th detonated an acoustic mine, near the Tongue Light Vessel. The casualties were 69 wounded and 24 killed or missing. The CWGC site lists Maurice as an Able Seaman. Again a possible clash with the photo. Were either, or both brothers awarded a medal, to account for the ribbon?
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Thread: British or American Navy?
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10-06-2016, 6:19 PM #11Peter Nicholl
Researching:Nicholl,Boater, Haselgrove & Vaughan
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10-06-2016, 9:00 PM #12
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https://www.theocadcollection.com/roy...peak-caps.html
if you go to this site and scroll down you will come to a badge looks same for a Petty officers peak cap ww2 says same as ww1
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11-06-2016, 5:02 PM #13
Peter, I only know what is on the CWGC site. I used to have an email for one of the nieces of these brothers but when my computer croaked I lost a lot of stuff - the external drive that I used as backup failed and corrupted all the files on it and them the computer went belly-up and ate the rest. I have a written list in a notebook so I will go through it and see what I can find - if she still has the same email.
You'd think I would keep in touch with these new-found relatives but all the crashes coincided with me being quite ill and not putering for nearly two months. A person gets out of practice. I will report on this thread when and if I get more infoSadly, our dear friend Ann (alias Ladkyis) passed away on Thursday, 26th. December, 2019.
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12-07-2016, 11:43 AM #14
Hi there, i think i may be able to help! This is a picture of my grandads father! We have his marriage certificate to great grandma luisa braun (spelt louise on ceritificate) I think we should definitely compare notes, he was quite the character it seems not lost at sea after all! 🙈 I think this may make my mum your cousin?
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12-07-2016, 1:28 PM #15
Elaluisa!!!! this is just AMAZING!!!! what you have given us is Extraordinary. Let me tell you who this picture is of.
He was born John Daniel Guilfoyle Seymour 16 December 1878 at 125 London Road, Southwark, London. The home of his maternal grandparents John and Sarah NATHAN.
His father was Charles Guilfoyle Seymour, his mother was Elizabeth Nathan.They were both actors and had just (I believe) returned from South Africa where they had been performing with Captain Disney Roebucks travelling theatre company.
The birth was registered by John Nathan, the grandfather, just inside the six week grace period.
Charles GS and Elizabeth (called Miss Bessie Nathan) were not married until March 1879 in West Derby Liverpool.
John Daniel had three sisters and a brother Harriet Sarah born 1880 in Dublin, Margaret Annie born 1882 in Darlington, Charles Seymour Aaron born 1884 in Southport and Bessie Hope born 1896 in Chorlton upon Medlock, Manchester.
Soon after the birth of Bessie Hope they moved to Newport in South Wales ( still don't know why, although I have half formed ideas)
Elizabeth opened a fancy goods bazaar here and she seems to have given the running of it to Charles Seymour Aaron. Charles GS died in 1905 and I think this disrupted the familybecause all the children were now grown up.
John Daniel married Josepha Gatiere in 1905 and the family story says that he went with her to Spain to meet her family. There was an argument and a falling out and she threw him into the street with no clothes so he went to the British Embassy where he was given clothes and sufficient money to get home.
In 1907 He married Luise Braun (I have no information about her family do you?) I see by the certificte that "Daniel" as he is calling himself says his father is a shop keeper and there is no mention of the fact that Charles GS died in 1905.
I will say right now that this bunch of siblings could win the lying olympics. I Love, love, love this family. They are so ....... amazing even though tracking them down has been a 20 year journey
Now where was I? oh yes,
Daniel and Luise had a son called Karl Benjamin. in 1913, just before, I am assuming he went off to sea and was lost........... only he actually went to who knows where and married a french lady called Fani. In 1925 he took a ship from Marseilles to New York as a steward and there he went through Ellis Island or Castle Fields to immigrate into the USA. He said he was going to live with his aunt Daisy Guilfoyle in Boston when he actually ended up - with Fani - in Nesconset, New York State
That'll do for now
Sadly, our dear friend Ann (alias Ladkyis) passed away on Thursday, 26th. December, 2019.
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12-07-2016, 2:06 PM #16
Just fell off chair! Luise (actually luisa but nobody ever spelt it correctly as she wasn't English) is my great grandma, and karl, is actually my uncle arthur! Dont ask ha! He was the youngest of four, my grandad (benjamin) being one of them, also moya and eric. Can't wait to fill in these gaps with you! Feeling quite emotional! And excited! oh also this is a pic of my grandads writing on back of photo.
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13-07-2016, 10:31 AM #17
This is the same man yes? Anyone!
That's his merchant Nvy number. He calls himself Daniel Seymour and says he was born in London Australia so half of that birthplace is right - Goodness me I adore this family of lying cheating scoundrels! I remember when I first started on this lot I wished that I had a black sheep in the family because they were so much easier to find. Here I am twenty years later only just finding the full extent of my flock of black sheep.Sadly, our dear friend Ann (alias Ladkyis) passed away on Thursday, 26th. December, 2019.
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13-07-2016, 10:43 AM #18
Definitely him, same ears, mouth, lies etc 😁 mum always said he was born in London, THE London though! I worked out the back of photo by the way, and it says lamport and holt, name of the shipping co, but you probs already have that by that now. Ohh lol, what a bad boy!
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22-06-2017, 5:47 AM #19
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Miss Bessie Nathan
Miss Bessie Nathan is my Great-Great Grandmother. We have come across her handwritten autobiography, newspaper articles & some very old photographs. Very excited to connect with relatives & learn more about the family. We are in San Diego, California, USA.
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26-06-2017, 7:21 AM #20
Just to update all those interested in this incredible family Keshanpugh is definitely a cousin! We are now in email contact and have begun the process of exchanging names and dates of children and aunts - and of course exchanging pictures. The family newsletter will be picture heavy this time.
Oh and we have another newly connected cousin descended from Bessie Hope. and that too will appear in the GazetteSadly, our dear friend Ann (alias Ladkyis) passed away on Thursday, 26th. December, 2019.
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