is it possible my G G/mother wasnt registered

[Megan Roberts]

Whilst there are known instances of BMDs not being recorded in the early years of civil registration another problem that can occur is one of spelling.

Most entries would have been made orally, by the "informant", and probably not checked by the informant, assuming they could read, and thus were dependant upon (a) what the scribe heard and (b) how good the scribe was at spelling.

With a name like Frances Wright, there are 2 obvious potential variations: FRANCIS and RIGHT, and I am sure that are many other less obvious ones.

[Wilkes_ml]

2 obvious potential variations: FRANCIS and RIGHT, and I am sure that are many other less obvious ones.

Whilst researching my own WRIGHT ancestors, I have also come across variations of WHITE, WEIGHT, WAIGHT and WYATT

[stepives]

Also, local dialects are sometimes a problem, when the scribe writes what he hears. Wright could be White/Whyat/Wyat.

This I have found to be the case with my own Wrights and Whites etc.

Written as heard, and never really challenged, even if the informant can read and right.

See if you can find a baptism for her, that may make things clearer.


Steve.

[almach]

Yes thats Frances, and yes I do have the marriage cert

Graham.

What occupation was entered for her father?

[geneius]

Not the reply you want

1861 RG 9; Piece: 2341; Folio: 123; Page: 24
h/hold John Wattam 59 desc as Frances grandfather
Frances WRIGHT aged 2 granddaughter

1871
RG10; Piece: 3348; Folio: 61; Page: 22

Maybe you need to look around the family to see if the birth is registered under a different surname

[pwholt]

What if Frances was not named at the time she was registered? She would appear as Female Wright ( or possibly girl). Do check this possibility, along with other variant spellings of the surname. pwholt

[geneius]

There is a tree on ancestry showing her date of birth ( unsubstantiated ) as 27 March 1859, however I would recommend that you look at the 1939 Register to see the date of birth given.

Maybe with this info you could approach the local *BMD office to see if you / they can search for the certificate. the birth could be registered in either the quarter Jan - Mar or is more likely to be April - June 1859

*Lincolnshire Archives

[almach]

I'd put this together yesterday and forgot to post.

1861, Timberland, RG 9; Piece: 2341; Folio: 123; Page: 24
John Wattam 59
Sarah Wattam 59
William Wright 4, gson
Mary A Wright 36, sister
Mary Wright 13 g.dau
Frances Wright 2, g.dau

1871, Timberland, RG10; Piece: 3348; Folio: 61; Page: 22
Robert Taylor 24
Ann Taylor 23
Timothy Taylor 3
Mary A Taylor 1
Francis Wright 12, visitor

1851, Timberland, HO107; Piece: 2100; Folio: 97; Page: 21
John Wattam 51
Sarah Wattam 49
Mary Wright 29
Betsy Wattam 14
Emma Wattam 6
Mary A Wattam 4
William Walker 77

John Wattam and Sarah Wright both of Thorpe Tilney married at Timberland 18th Oct 1830, Wiliam and Mary Wright were the witnesses

1841
Jno Watham Male 40 1801 Lincolnshire, England
Sarah Watham Female 40 1801 Lincolnshire, England
Francess Watham Female 9 1832 Lincolnshire, England
Betsey Watham Female 3 1838 Lincolnshire, England

[almach]

Looking for the children on the 1861 census, thus far I've found a baptism for only one.

Name William Wright
Gender Male
Christening Date 08 Mar 1858
Christening Place Timberland, Lincoln, England
Mother's Name Mary Wright

[almach]

1871, Timberland, RG10; Piece: 3348; Folio: 61; Page: 22
Robert Taylor 24
Ann Taylor 23
Timothy Taylor 3
Mary A Taylor 1
Francis Wright 12, visitor

Robert Taylor married Ann Wright BUT she names her father as Thomas ADLAND!!!

Name Robert Taylor
Birth Date 1846
Age 21
Spouse's Name Ann Wright
Spouse's Birth Date 1847
Spouse's Age 20
Event Date 1867
Event Place Timberland, Lincoln, England
Father's Name William Taylor
Spouse's Father's Name Thomas Adland

I wonder is Ann Wright, Mary Wright, aged 13 on the 1861 census, could her name have been Mary ANN who preferred ANN? Oh who knows, there's lots of things which don't seem clear with these folks.