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    hi i am trying to find out about about stephen ainsworth 1789 who married eliabeth guy in 1810 and lived in birmingham . the only thing we know is that stephen was a boatman as it was on several of his children birth listings . stepehn ainsworth 1836 , joseph ainsworth . we think stephen and eliabeth passed before 1841
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    Your last known 'church record' date is 24 November 1835, when Stephen James was baptised. The next date is 6 June 1841, census date, If the parents died which seems to be the correct assumption, finding some of the children with relatives,

    Your timescale:

    A) November 1835 8 30 June 1837 Parish Records only.

    b) 1st July 1837 on both the Parish Records & certification

    Presumably this is the marriage to which you refer

    Stephen Hainsworth
    mentioned in the record of Stephen Hainsworth and Elizabeth Guy
    Name Stephen Hainsworth
    Spouse's Name Elizabeth Guy
    Event Date 24 Dec 1810
    Event Place Aston Juxta Birmingham,Warwick,England


    Name William Ainsworth
    Gender Male
    Christening Date 31 May 1822
    Christening Place SAINT PHILLIPS,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND
    Birth Date 06 Nov 1821
    Father's Name Stephen Ainsworth
    Mother's Name Elizabeth

    Name Joseph Ainsworth
    Gender Male
    Christening Date 31 May 1822
    Christening Place SAINT PHILLIPS,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND
    Birth Date 01 Apr 1820
    Father's Name Stephen Ainsworth
    Mother's Name Elizabeth

    Thomas Ainsworth
    Gender Male
    Christening Date 07 Apr 1817
    Christening Place Birmingham, Warwick, England
    Birth Date 20 Feb 1816
    Birthplace Lionel Street
    Father's Name Stephen Ainsworth
    Mother's Name Elizabeth


    Name Ann Ainsworth
    Gender Female
    Christening Date 07 Apr 1817
    Christening Place Birmingham, Warwick, England
    Birth Date 19 Feb 1811
    Birthplace Lionel Street
    Father's Name Stephen Ainsworth
    Mother's Name Elizabeth

    Name Charles Ainsworth
    Gender Male
    Christening Date 25 Aug 1833
    Christening Place SAINT THOMAS,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND
    Birth Date 06 Mar 1833
    Father's Name Stephen Ainsworth
    Mother's Name Elizabeth


    Name Stephen James Ainsworth
    Gender Male
    Christening Date 20 Dec 1835
    Christening Place SAINT THOMAS,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND
    Birth Date 24 Nov 1835
    Father's Name Stephen Ainsworth
    Mother's Name Elizabeth

    Name Emma Hainsworth
    Gender Female
    Christening Date 26 Dec 1830
    Christening Place SAINT THOMAS,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND
    Father's Name Stephen Hainsworth
    Mother's Name Elizabeth

    BURIALS

    Name Henry Ainsworth
    Gender Male
    Burial Date 05 Dec 1830
    Burial Place Birmingham, Warwick, England
    Age 2
    Birth Date 1828
    Marital Status Single
    Father's Name Stephen Ainsworth
    Mother's Name Elizabeth Ainsworth

    Name Samuel Ainsworth
    Gender Male
    Burial Date 16 Aug 1819
    Burial Place Birmingham, Warwick, England
    Age 2
    Birth Date 1817
    Father's Name Stephen Ainsworth
    Mother's Name Elizabeth Ainsworth

    Name Joseph Ainsworth
    Gender Male
    Burial Date 29 May 1827
    Burial Place St. Marys, Birmingham, Warwick, England
    Age 1
    Birth Date 1826
    Father's Name Stephen Ainsworth
    Mother's Name Elizabeth Ainsworth

    1841 Census relating to some of the above
    Slaney Street, Birmingham, Warwickshir
    Joseph Potter Male 40 1801 Warwickshire,
    Charlotte Potter Female 40 1801 Warwickshire,
    Charles Guy Male 30 1811 Warwickshire
    William Ainsworth Male 15 1826 Warwickshire,
    Charles Ainsworth Male 8 1833 Warwickshire


    1851 Census relating to some of the above
    HO107 2058 254 9
    Hospital Street, Saint George, Birmingham, Warwickshire
    Charlotte Potter Head Widow Female 50 1801 Bayonets Polisher Birmingha
    oseph Ainsworth Nephew Unmarried Male 32 1819 Gun Finisher Birmingham
    Charles Ainsworth Nephew Unmarried Male 19 1832 Brass Founder Birmingham
    Stephen Ainsworth Nephew Unmarried Male 16 1835 Gun Finisher Birmingham

    William Lane Lodger Unmarried Male 25 1826 Gun Smith Birmingham

    Charlotte Guy
    Christening Date 31 Jul 1797
    Christening Place SAINT PHILLIPS,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND
    Father's Name John Guy
    Mother's Name Ann

    Name Joseph Potter
    Spouse's Name Charlotte Burr
    Event Date 30 May 1841
    Event Place St. Philip'S Cathedral, Birmingham, Warwick, England
    Father's Name John Potter
    Spouse's Father's Name John Guy

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    thanks for your reply yeah we are thinking that charlotte was elizabeth sister. we know that stephen was down as andsoff with a family called benbow dunno where they fit in 1941 ceensus

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    To add to what Jean has already found for you, good work Jean, the banns of the marriage of Stephen & Elizabeth also appear on Ancestry and they were called on the 9th, 16th & 23rd December 1810 and show that Stephen HAINSWORTH was of Bradford Street, Deritend, aged 21, & Elizabeth GUY, the same, aged 22 years, which gives you a bit more information. The witnesses at the actual marriage on 24th December 1810 were John GUY & Mary STANDLY who both marked as did the bride and groom, so John GUY was presumably a relative of Elizabeth.

    There is a burial, which may be relevant to you, at Birmingham St Martin on 20 September 1835 of a Stephen AYNSWORTH of Sleany? Street, aged 43.

    Bingo! This is definitely the burial of your Stephen as the entry of Emma's baptism in the parish register of St Thomas, Birmingham, shows their address to be Slaney Street and that he was a Labourer at that time as does the baptismal record of Stephen James AINSWORTH on 20 Dec 1835 (born 24 November), who must have been born & baptised after his father's death, mustn't he - poor Elizabeth.

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    I hadn't looked at STephens age and thought he might have been with the Benbow's as an apprentice gunsmith!!

    Yes there could be a relative connection. I can see a Ann GUY d/o Charles & Sarah bp 9 June 1786 St Martin B'ham just cannot pick up a marriage to BENBOW.

    If I recall there is a Charles GUY b 1811 with the Ainsworth boys in 1851 I think his parents maybe Charles.....

    Haven't got Ancestry at present however maybe someone can look at the PR's for Birmingham....

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    Thomas BENBOW and wife? Ann are proving somewhat difficult to trace. I cannot find him in the 1851 census so perhaps he died. There is a burial record on 13 April 1849 at Birmingham St Philip of a Thomas BENBOW, Weaman Street, aged 63, who could be the Thomas BENBOW in the 1841 census at Moland Street as Wearman Street is not that far away from Moland Street. I cannot find a marriage for him In Birmingham or in Warwickshire but given that Ann BENBOW is shown as not born in the county in the 1841, there is a marriage at Sedgley, Staffs on 2 September 1810 between a Thomas BENBOE & Ann WILKES, but that does not give a connection between him and the AINSWORTH/GUY families, does it.

    Three baptisms on the same day at Birmingham St Philip, i.e. 31 July 1797 for an Elizabeth, John & Charlotte, children of John & Ann GUY. Presumably they were not all baptised as infants, given that Elizabeth GUY was supposedly 22 in 1810! Unfortunately the parish register page is damaged, so any information as regards age of Elizabeth & John after their names is indecipherable.

    Ah, I may just have found the connection between Thomas BENBOW & the GUY/AINSWORTH families - bit convoluted but here goes.

    Marriage at Birmingham St Philip on 5 March 1788 between John GUY & Ann OVERTON
    Burial 3 June 1788 at St Martin for Charles son of John & Ann GUY
    Marriage at Birmingham St Martin on 17 November 1789 between John GUY of this parish, widower, & Ann BAYLIS of this parish, spinster
    Marriage at Birmingham St Martin on 3 February 1798 between Thomas BENBOW & Mary BAYLIS

    Haven't found the burials yet for John's first wife or Thomas's first wife but will keep looking.

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    wow these are brilliant thank you so much all of you. amaing

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    yes it was a tragic story it would seem and continued with stephen james the ensor/ ainsworth tread on general thread . he and his wife emma died early too

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    [QUOTE=janbooth;617719]To add to what Jean has already found for you, good work Jean, the banns of the marriage of Stephen & Elizabeth also appear on Ancestry and they were called on the 9th, 16th & 23rd December 1810 and show that Stephen HAINSWORTH was of Bradford Street, Deritend, aged 21, & Elizabeth GUY, the same, aged 22 years, which gives you a bit more information. The witnesses at the actual marriage on 24th December 1810 were John GUY & Mary STANDLY who both marked as did the bride and groom, so John GUY was presumably a relative of Elizabeth.


    this is interesting because we have a ann standley born 1815 who married a william tranter . their daughter sarah tranter married a abraham groutage and their daughter jane groutage married walter benjamin son of stephen 1836. think thats right !!!!

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    This Mary STANDLY could well be connected to your family in some way, couldn't she. It never ceases to amaze me how strands of families intermarried - my lines are riddled with intermarriages, even supposedly forbidden ones such as first cousins.

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