Hoping someone can help,
Although I've been researching my family for some years now I've not come across 'father not known' but a relative has asked if I can help him. Well, I've gone as far as I can go but have got nowhere-baptism entry has a father's name but I think the name inserted was done as a favour by the vicar to the family. The birth year was 1929 and at a time when the vicar knew everyone who lived in the small village and the birth certificate just has a blank.
I've asked all the family what they know or if they have a theory which has been helpful. I have been told that 'the mother' at some time went to a court in London but have no idea what court and for what reason would she have gone?
My relative was brought up by his mother and the man she married some years later but there's no chance he was the father.
Thanks
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13-07-2015, 4:09 PM #1TerryJGuest
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13-07-2015, 7:28 PM #2
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but I think the name inserted was done as a favour by the vicar to the family.
I have been told that 'the mother' at some time went to a court in London but have no idea what court and for what reason would she have gone?
She was probably seeking what is called an affiliation order or a bastardy bond.
Try the local record office, or go to your local library and see if they have access to searchable old newspapers.
You could also buy this book from the National Archives:https://bookshop.nationalarchives.gov...Was-A-Bastard/
Illegitimacy can be a road block, but it does not have to be.
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14-07-2015, 7:18 AM #3
If the parents weren't married, the only way that the father's name could be put on the birth cert was for both parents to turn up at the office to register the birth. Parish Ministers, on the other hand, had very good ways of extracting names. I'd take the name in the baptismal records seriously unless I had a good reason not to. Also, if she was getting/expecting financial support from him, she'd have no reason to keep his name out of the records - it would probably look better if he was named.
Megan's right and her advice is good. It might also be worth looking through some of the advice in our adoption forum - I know that she wasn't adopted, but a lot of the interest there is in tracking previously-unknown birth parents...
Googling on "bastardy bonds" reveals that many of the regional genealogy groups have their local bbs online, so it might also be worth taking a look at the appropriate one.Last edited by Lesley Robertson; 14-07-2015 at 7:19 AM. Reason: typo
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16-07-2015, 10:14 AM #4
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There were no bastardy bonds in 1929. The questioner probably wants the records of the petty sessions / police court/ magistrate's court (the one relevant to where the mother was living).
Have you seen for yourself the original baptism entry?
Presumably you've checked that there was no later re-registration of the birth.
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16-07-2015, 10:42 AM #5
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could be put on the birth cert was for both parents to turn up at the office to register the birth.
I have recently learnt, having a battered partly illegible birth certificate for a relative that any errors made prior to the Registrar signing the birth entry are crossed out & initialled, this is the prime source, however the crossed out details were not transferred to the certificate given to the mother. Presumably she declared the father and then for whatever reason decided she did not want it on the certificate that she would keep which was probably why the fathers space was partly defaced. If anyone looked at it they wouldn't realise there was no entry!....In my case the crossed out info turns out to be the father who eventually paid maintenance.
Have you seen for yourself the original baptism entry?
You can order the film via the familysearch resource section to view at a local centre close to you
Search the Parish other records accounts etc to see if there is any further info
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16-07-2015, 12:13 PM #6
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I think the name inserted was done as a favour by the vicar to the family
On the other hand for the birth registration, in the case of unmarried parents, the registrar was not allowed to enter the father's name unless the father actually turned up for the registration.
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16-07-2015, 12:23 PM #7
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the vicar knew everyone who lived in the small village
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16-07-2015, 4:53 PM #8TerryJGuest
Thanks, I guess it may well be Dartford Kent. I've seen the original on Cityark but have not thought about a re-registration-didn't know of this!
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16-07-2015, 4:56 PM #9TerryJGuest
The name on the baptism register wasn't the fathers, the person named was however was known to the vicar.
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16-07-2015, 5:34 PM #10
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You said in message 1
baptism entry has a father's nameThe name on the baptism register wasn't the fathers
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