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    I came across an interesting court case while perusing newsapers.com today. I think (by which I mean it is possible not certain) this could be a link that will lead to clues on the ancestry of the "other David Mendes" - the one that married Abigail de Joseph Fernandez da Silva at Bevis Marks in 1774 (when my David Mendes was 5 so really could not have been him if Miriam's information is correct). It was a court case that took place at the Guildhall in 1796 regarding a number of defendants charged with fabricating the will of Aaron Fernandes da Sylva ( the spelling given in the court case - but the names are so similar that spelling really could have been altered). In short, Aaron, an old and frail, and as witnesses suggested blind old man, was murdered along with his servant at his home in Chelsea in January 1793. He died intestate and his closest living kin Issac Fernandes de Sylva was determined his heir. A man named Benjamin Mendes Henriques and others conspired to create a false will that said Benjamin had been left 1000 pounds of Aron's estate.The court proved to the satisfaction of the jury that Aaron was virtually blind and could not have produced the will created by Benjamin. Other witnesses confessed they were paid by Benjamin to lie about facts, including as to who murdered Aaron and the servant. A witness had claimed that it was his nephew David Mendes who had killed him and and then confessed and killed himself. Now I know this says "nephew" but as it was very common to marry your cousin I think this could be the David Mendes who married Abigail de Joseph Fernandez da Silva. I have not been able to tie all these people together with any information on ancestry. If this is the other David then that would put his death somewhere between 1793 and the court date of 1796. Very interesting case! If we can tie these people together more conclusively it would help eliminate confusion with David Mendes b 1769.

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    See History of Suicide: Voluntary Death in Western Culture.. George Minois John Hopkins University Press 1999...."On the 26 January 1793 David Mendes killed himself while under suspicion of having committed two crimes; his cadaver was sentenced."
    In a separate snippet... "one of his children died the same week it was rumoured he was to be re-arrested."
    This gives specific date of death for this David Mendes plus the death of his child.
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    Further to # 22 and the date of suicide of David Mendes aka Mendez 26 Jan 1793 further accounts of his suicide at the time state "Mr Mendes his nephew who lived near Moorfields"; "half a pint of arsenic found in his belly": " buried in Bishopsgate near the new opening". Another account states "he was buried on the highway near Chelsea"

    This burial was a common procedure for many suicides and from earlier research it is my understanding that Jews who committed suicide had to be buried at night and I am not sure it was under Jewish rites.
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    Wow, great stuff Phillip. The 18th century really is a hard sell for time travelers! I did some digging and put together some of the Fernandes de Silva family from the jewishgen insurance records but not in any conclusive way. Still have not linked Abigail de Fernandez de Silva conclusively to this really tragic David ( as opposed to "financial woes David") other than by name. I suspect the records are out there to do it but must give this a rest for the day.

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    See London Lives 1690-1800 online City of London Coroner's Inquests into suspicious deaths 2 Jan 1793-28 Dec 1793
    David Mendes. Inquisition Parish of St Botolph Bishopsgate. This is the original record of the inquest into the suicide of David Mendes. The inquest referred to David Mendes having "No goods or chattels, lands or tenements within the City of London".
    This inquisition is in the Southwark area.
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    The JewishGen Jewish Traders/Businesses in London 1769-1839 records plus Insurance Policy Records show that the David Mendes confectioner and army accourtment maker was at various addresses in Borough Road from at least 1819 so could not be the David Mendes who committed suicide in 1793. This at least rules out one David Mendes.
    In addition, a Gentleman's Magazine article on the murder of Aaron da Silva in 1793 refers to David Mendes his nephew having a wife and 2 or 3 children living in Moorfields. This also helps to narrow down this David Mendes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phillip View Post
    See London Lives 1690-1800 online City of London Coroner's Inquests into suspicious deaths 2 Jan 1793-28 Dec 1793
    David Mendes. Inquisition Parish of St Botolph Bishopsgate. This is the original record of the inquest into the suicide of David Mendes. The inquest referred to David Mendes having "No goods or chattels, lands or tenements within the City of London".
    This inquisition is in the Southwark area.
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    whilst there are exceptions under Jewish Law,what he did was beyond the pale and no way would he have been given a religeous funeral

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