William Baugh Pickering

[altercynthia]

I am looking for information on William Baugh Pickering, born 2nd April 1844, in county Essex, son of John, born 11th March 1808, baptized at Bermondsey, mother Rebecca Elizabeth Turney, Westerham. William's second wife Emma Beatrice Curson, born 16th April 1860. Looking for any siblings of William and Beatrice. We do have names of their children who emigrated to South Africa in 1889.

[geneius]

I have had a brief look around and found the following, William B PICKERING appears to have married a relative!

1865 Marriage Newington 1d 361 to MARY ANN HODGES

1877 Mary Ann PICKERING aged 31 Camberwell 1d 506 Did she die in childbirth?

1881
RG 11 682 121 53
8, Woods Terrace (Woods Road), Camberwell, London, England
DIVERS John head 1795 Goodnestone Kent
DIVER Matilda Elizabeth 1809 Finsbury
PICKERING William BAUGH grandson 1844 Clerk Builders Soithwark
PICKERING Lilian grand child 1874 Peckham
PICKERING Amy Louisa 1877 grand child Peckham
CURSON Emma Beatrice 1862 Greenwich
CHANCE Maria 1865 Servant Dalston

1882 21 Feb Marriage Camberwell 1d 869 to Emma Beatrice CURSON
https://www.certificate-exchange.co.u...hp?CertID=2207


From: www.eggsa.org/newspapers
17/02/1890 of Fever Henry Curson 2nd son of William B & Emma B aged 5 years 1 month
12/04/1890 at Standerton the wife of William Baugh PICKERING a son


Family gravestone
https://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=772291

There is the suggestion that William & Beatrice had at least 10 children

Not sure how some of this fits in with your records particularly as JOhn DIVERS appears to be a grandparent

William Baugh Pickering, born 2nd April 1844, in county Essex, son of John, born 11th March 1808, baptized at Bermondsey, mother Rebecca Elizabeth Turney, Westerham

[christanel]

Hi
I have separated your post about William and given it a place of its own in the Essex forum because the Introduce Yourself forum is for doing just that.
It now has a better chance of being seen by more members.
Christina

[christanel]

There is a public tree on ancestry that has these children of John Pickering and Rebecca Elizabeth Turney 1807.

Samuel Pickering 1839,
John J Pickering1840,
Elizabeth A Pickering1842,
William Baugh Pickering1844
Thomas Turney Pickering1846,
Alexander Schlüsser Pickering1852 – 1919

All except John are together on the 1861 census. I can't read whether Rebecca is married or widowed.
RG 9 Piece 388 Folio 74; Page 36
4 Marlborough Terrace Old Kent Road
Rebecca E Pickering 54 Head Westerham Kent
Samuel Pickering 22 Drug dealer Newington Surrey
John J Pickering 21 Banker;s clerk Newington Surrey
Elizabeth A Pickering 19 Newington Surrey
William B Pickering 17 Mercantile Clerk Newington Surrey
Thomas T Pickering 15 Deptford Hampshire
Alexander S Pickering 9 Deptford Hampshire
Mary Owen 21 servant
George Collins 30 visitor banker's clerk

Christina

[altercynthia]

John (father of William) died 1 December 1852 at 1 Victoria Cottages, New Cross S.E.
I see perhaps where the name Charles Collins came from.( friend the bankers clerk George Collins)
thank you, it very exciting as pieces , fall into place, I have been trying to find info since 2010. Never heard the name Alexander Schu"ssler. The plot thickens.

Cynthia

[christanel]

John Divers
Married 20 Jan 1834
at Saint Leonard Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Spouse - Matilda Elizabeth Stoffell
FHL Film Number = 413283

1851 HO107 piece 1531 folio 91 page 42
Licensed Tavern 4 Talbot Court
John Divers 55 Licensed victualler Goodnestone Kent
Matilda Divers 42 Finsbury Middlesex
George Divers 16 son Mile End London
Matilda E Divers 8 months dau City
Mary Anne Divers 23 niece visitor Goodnestone Kent
Fanny Divers 21 niece barmaid Goodnestone Kent
Elizabeth S Divers 18 niece visitor Goodnestone Kent
Jane Howard 29 servant
Mary Ann Herritt 17 servant
John Lovell 22 servant
Henry Lovell 18 servant

Can't find them in 1841 yet and can't see a connection to William B Pickering yet.

Baptism
John Divers
8 Mar 1795
At Goodnestone (near Faversham), Kent
Father - John Divers
Mother -Catharine
FHL Film Number - 1736722


Christina

[altercynthia]

A friend found a view of Rebecca Elizabeth Pickering nee Turney's will., my g.granf father's wife dd,18 Nov.1880, which mentions sons Samuel and Alexander Schlusser Pickering. My g.grandfather did not list either of them, nor his sister Elizabeth A in his hand written list of which I received a copy. Yesterday I came across an article in the NWKFS VOL. 9 NO 5 DD MARCH 2002 , written by a Roger Sutton of Lancing, West Sussex mentioning the his g.grandfather was John Turney Pickering , with the same parents as William Baugh. Unfortunately I do not know if he is still alive but I have written to him enclosing my e-mail address. Is this not amazing?
I am also wondering where the Schlusser name came from. Did the families name their children after relatives and friends in the hope of recognition or money reward? Thank you again for all the help given, I am slowly finding famiily members through your efforts and kindness. regards Cynthia Pickering Alter.

[christanel]

All the above children's baptisms are on ancestry. If you don't have access to it your local library may have the free version.
There is also one other child Ann Emily bpt 1843.
There are two deaths of an Ann E Pickering 1843-1861 that could be her. Both in 1857 in Thanet Kent and Greenwich. Of course she just may be somewhere else in 1861.

[christanel]

1851 HO107 piece 1584 folio 10 page 13
Victoria Cottage St Paul Deptford
John Pickering 43 Drug Broker Bermondsey Surrey
Rebecca E Pickering 44 Westerham Kent
Elizabeth A Pickering 9 Newington
William B Pickering 6 Newington Surrey
Thomas T Pickering 5 Hatcham Surrey
Elizabeth Lepcombe 22 servant
Mary Jones 19 servant

[christanel]

Young Samuel looks to be with his maternal grandparents in 1841 although relationships are not stated. Ages were also rounded down to the nearest 5.
HO107 piece 485 book 14 folio 8 page 8
Westerham Kent
Thomas turney 70
Ann Turney 65
Ann Turney 36
Edward turney 25
Eliza Turney 25
Mary Baugh 40
Samuel Pickering 2

Also a Mary Baugh so who does she belong to?

Added: Samuel and Alexander were granted probate of Rebecca Elizabeth's will in 1881

Baptism
Rebecca Elizabeth Turney
Baptised 13 Jul 1806 at Westerham, Kent, England
Father -Thomas Turney
Mother -Anne
FHL Film Number -1469268
Reference ID -item 8

Four other children baptized to this couple at Westerham - see familysearch although I got them on ancestry.
Catherine 7 Aug 1808
Emily 4 Jan 1818
Eliza 13 July 1814
Maria 19 August 1810 - I wonder if this is the Mary Baugh in the 1841 census? Her married name?