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  1. #21
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    Reference post 11 from Geneius do consider the William GRAHAM, married, aged 45, cannot read his occupation either, sorry, born Westminster shown as a Boarder at 23 Holland Street (RG13/408, folio 139, page 48). I only throw this into the pot because the baptismal record of son George William shows his address as 29 Holland Street.

    Janet

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    Hi Janet.

    Hold Everything!

    Information Overload!

    Your in the mess, that is the Graham family, which is not easy to see who did what.

    The traveller info is new to me, but sorta explains how they got from Birmingham, to London. I wonder how far back you have to go, before we get to Scotland.

    The whole Army thing is a bit unclear, because at one time he's in India, then in 1911 when he's a Labourer, and then in 1913, he's a Male Nurse?

    So can we leave that bit out for now?

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    Hi Janet.

    Is there any year for the 23 Holland Street address? It must be from after he came out of the Workhouse?

    What happened to the Ship Court, Westminster address?

    John

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    The traveller info is new to me, but sorta explains how they got from Birmingham, to London.
    "Traveller" was his occupation, not his lifestyle!

    Traveller means Commercial Traveller, travelling salesman.

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    So, now I have a Vacume Cleaner Salesman to add to my CV.

    Only Joking, but a Salesman is a bit better than a Traveller, as we know them today, although once apon a time it was a good way of life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Gibbon View Post
    Hi Janet.

    Is there any year for the 23 Holland Street address? It must be from after he came out of the Workhouse?

    What happened to the Ship Court, Westminster address?

    John
    1901 RG13 408

    h/hold SCANLAN

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    Quote Originally Posted by geneius View Post
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    Marriage entry to GILLMAN Joseph

    7 October 1883

    Georgina GRAHAM 21 sp Tufton Stfather George GRAHAM traveller

    Witness Mary Ann TWENTY and possibly another ....TWENTY'


    I had assumed as neither twin appeared with the family in 1871 they had both died...seem to think I saw Lizzie Ruth Georgins Graham???

    Off out for a few hours

    Jean
    I don't quite understand this post. Who married Who?

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    Is this correct? and who is the wife?

    Stuart Thomas Graham
    Marriage 1875 Jun Age: 33
    Westminster, Middlesex, England
    St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 703

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    I've gone back to thread #20 by Janet.

    Baptism:
    George William Graham
    born: 29 March 1887
    bap: 10 April 1887 in parish of St Matthew, Westminster, Middx.
    parents: George William Graham and Priscilla
    occupation: shoeblack
    abode: 29 Holland Street.


    Baptism:
    Caroline Rose Graham
    born: 13 Jan 1887
    bap: 20 Feb 1887 St Matthew, Westminster.
    parents: George William Graham and Priscilla
    occupation: very tough to decipher!
    abode: 2 Laundry Yard.

    The occupation for this George William I thought looked similar to Army 'Accountenancy' Maker...which makes no sense at all!
    I've a feeling that word might just be "Accoutrement" (obsolete word for Outfit)

    So I'm thinking Army Accoutrement Maker - meaning George William might have dealt with Army uniforms, or something along those lines


    Baptism:
    Hannah Matilda Graham
    born: 27 Feb 1889
    bap: 1 Sept 1889
    parents: William Graham and what looks like Preropeia (its not Priscilla)
    occupation: labourer
    abode: 10 Ship Court.

    The image is headed Westminster baptisms but the church info or parish is blank.

    However, the transcription page states the parish is St Stephen, Rochester Row, Middx
    also states parents as William and Presopeia Graham.
    .....maybe Priscilla sounds like that if you say it quickly!

    I'm glad to say that Janet usually comes along behind me to correct any mistakes I make, so hopefully she will give her input on this Hannah baptism.


    That 1901 census for William Graham boarding with the Scanlan family at 23 Holland Street.
    I think William's occupation is 'unloader of mineral water'
    - James Scanlan the same and Peter Scanlan corks bottles of mineral water.


    Rebecca

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Gibbon View Post
    I don't quite understand this post. Who married Who?
    Originally Posted by geneius

    #18

    Marriage entry to GILLMAN Joseph

    7 October 1883

    Georgina GRAHAM 21 sp Tufton Stfather George GRAHAM traveller

    Witness Mary Ann TWENTY and possibly another ....TWENTY'


    I had assumed as neither twin appeared with the family in 1871 they had both died...seem to think I saw Lizzie Ruth Georgins Graham???

    Off out for a few hours

    Jean

    I shouldn't have tried to dash this off before I went out!

    In response to
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    Marriage

    7 October 1883

    Georgina GRAHAM 21 sp Tufton St father George GRAHAM traveller

    to GILLMAN Joseph

    Witness Mary Ann TWENTY and possibly another ....TWENTY'

    No death entry for Georgins b 1860...my response

    I had assumed as neither twin appeared with the family in 1871 they had both died

    ...however I seem to think I saw Lizzie Ruth Georgina Graham??? which could be twin Gergina, but I think not!

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