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    Smile Bonwick,Hoadley,Fagence, Roberts Chapman

    Hi everyone,

    I am trying to find information regarding my dads family, who were Gypsies on Hurtwood Common.
    My gran was phoebe Hoadley Roberts born to Annie Bonwick and Philip Chapman (was Roberts). phoebes' siblings Were: Caleb, Henry, James, William, Arthur. All living in one Gypsy Tent 1911 in Caterham.

    Philip Chapman and Annie Bonwick my gt.grand parents also lived on Hurtwood Common Peaslake, Shere near Guildford. Which is where my aunties were born in a gypsy tent there...all seven children born on Hurtwood and three born on Field Common.

    They were moved off in 1934 to Field Common Walton on Thames Surrey by the council.

    Many Thanks

    Sheila Anne Fagence-Sewell

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    Hello Sheila & welcome for starters

    These are the entry's in the GRO bith / marriages / death ( certification aas we know it!)

    If you need to obtain the certificates, these cost 9.25 from www.gro.gov.uk, you will need the info below. note the mistranscription of Phoeby/Phoebe surname!

    BIRTH
    Phoeby Hoadley Roberts
    Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1909
    Registration District: Godstone
    Inferred County: Surrey
    Volume: 2a
    Page: 225

    MARRIAGE
    Phoebe Ogley
    Fagence
    Oct-Nov-Dec 1928
    Guildford
    Surrey
    2a
    298

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    1891 census
    RG12; Piece: 574; Folio: 45; Page: 20
    Little Brooks ( in Barn)
    Ockley Surrey
    CHAPMAN Elizabeth
    39 Single Hawker Chatham Kent
    CHAPMAN Eliza
    17 Single Hawker Hartfield Kent
    CHAPMAN Hervey
    10 Leigh Surrey
    CHAPMAN Philip
    10 Leigh Surrey

    CHAPMAN Alice
    7 Newdigate? Surrey
    CHAPMAN James
    4 Lindfield Surrey
    CHAPMAN Caleb
    1 Newdigate Surrey


    Hawker Kent

    Camped with
    In a Tent
    PARRY Cornelius 44 Hawker London
    PARRY Charlotte 38 Canterbury
    PARRY James 6 Bristol
    PARRY Thomas 7months Fleet Chatham

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    Hi geneius,
    Many Thanks for your help, much appreciated. :-)

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    Thank you so much...!! :-)

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    Philip ROBERTS
    Birth 1881
    Death March 1963
    Aged 82
    District Surrey North Western
    Vol 5g
    Page 1181

    Latest Census
    North Park Goldstone
    One GYPSY TENT
    ROBERTS Philip 30 Lab leigh
    ROBERTS Annie 26 Croyden
    ROBERTS Philip 7 Cranleigh
    ROBERTS Phoebe 2 Godstone
    ROBERTS James 7/12 Balcombe
    JANES Arthur 15 visitor London
    The census indicates the couple have been married 8 years and had 4/4 living children. One appears to be missing from the census! They appear to be pitched between the Gamekeepers cottage Chalkpit Cottage Godstone Road & Gables Whitehill

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    Mary CHAPMAN / ROBERTS nee JONES / BONWICK
    1891 RG13 633
    Tidcombe Farm Godstone
    JONES Henry 46 Ag Lab Marsh Green Sussex
    JONES Amelia 48 Lindfield
    JONES Mary A 11 Croyden
    JONES James 9 Croyden
    JONES Alfred 5 Croyden
    JONES Sarah 3 Croyden

    1881 RG12; Piece: 586; Folio: 85; Page: 38
    13 Napier Road Croyden
    BONWICK Hy ( Henry )34 Hawker Edenbridge Kent
    BONWICK Amelia 28 Lindfield
    BONWICK Jno 9 Croyden
    BONWICK Mary Ann 6 Croyden
    LIVING Next door
    11 Napier Road
    STANLEY John Hawker 22 Croyden
    STANLEY Augusta A 20 Kensington


    Not sure where to 'take' you now!

    It is not unusual for male romany to change their surname to that of their mothers maiden name.....I think you may find when
    romany are 'pitched together they are related' which is why I have given you the info.

    the 1881 census can be viewed free on subscription sites together with www.familysearch.org ( includes church records)

    certificate / event look up is at www.freebmd.org.uk

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    Dear Sheila
    My name is Catherine Hodgkin
    My granddad was Caleb Chapman and my Grandmother Caroline Seers I had relatives living in Field common too.
    I wonder if we might be able to find some more information together by sharing information.
    All best wishes Catherine

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    Welcome to the British-Genealogy forums Catherine,
    Sheila hasn't been on the forums since she posted this message but if she still has the same email address as when she joined she should receive an email notification of your post. Another way to get in touch is by private message (pm) which you do by clicking on her user name and choosing Private message from the drop down menu. This also depends on her having the same email email address.
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