My Ulrich/Ulrick Grandfathers - Help please!

[geneius]

Speculatively:

John Gottlieb ULRICH bu 29 January 1806 aged 51 years
Susannah ULRICH bu 11 March 1832 of Upper Clapton b circa 1766

Other issue
Frederick Henry b 04/02/1805 bp 23/03/1803
Francis David b 23/09/1805 bp 19/05/1805

Most of the events seem to be at St John Hackney

Should have mentioned JGL junior was a watchmaker....it's late

[christanel]

Thought I would go looking for Charles E Ulrich b 1874 in the 1891 census. Took ages because he is under his first name initials. There is the owner and then all the others on the page are servants
1891 RG12/2494/90/7
Rolleston Hall Leicester
C I? de Marrieta 26 No occupation born London

Stables (with lots of others)
C E Ulrich groom Domestic born Mayfair London

[christanel]

1861 RG 9 Piece 153 Folio 35 Page 14
High ? Ferry Tavern? Tower hamlet
Gerhard C Ulrich 60 Boot man (looks like boat on image) born Tarves Hill Middlesex
Keriah Ulrich 56 Surrey
Alfred M Ulrich 18 grocers shopman Clapton

The surname was mistranscribed and 3 people have submitted corrections. You could check with your local library to see if they have the free library version of ancestry. I also think Findmypast have a free two week trial at the moment. But if you do take that make sure you cancel ahead of time otherwise you will be charged.

[christanel]

In support of geneius' post #11 there is a baptism of Jane Susannah Ulrich Dec 15 1819. Parents John Gottlieb and Elizabeth Margaret Ulrich of Union? Street.
Giving his daughter the middle name of Susannah would indicate that he is naming her after his mother.
I can't find a marriage for a Johann to a Susannah nor can I link Gerhard born c1806 to John Gottleib as yet.

[GloriaVDP]

Hi,

I am sorry I can't help you with this information, but I am hoping you can help me. I think one of your grandfathers was married to a relative of mine. Her name was Elizabeth Margaret Vanderpump and she married Johann Gottlieb Ulrich (1798 - 1875) in 1819 at St. Andrew's Church, Holburn, London, England. Her father was Jeremiah Vanderpump. Do you have any information about him? Also Elizabeth and Johann's children, Jane Susannah, John Gottleib, Jeremiah Louis, Sarah Lydia, Catherine May and Joshua William Henry?

Hope to hear from you,

Cheers,
Gloria VDP

[geneius]

Strictly references to Jeremiah VANDERPUMP....an interesting man / men!!

England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
Jeremiah Vanderpump
Date of Trial: Sep 1795
Trial Year: 1795
Location of Trial: Middlesex, England
Sentence: Other
Burglary at Peckham
Committed to Newgate
It looks as if there were accomplice: John HARDY/ Nicholas INGLIS / Harry DILLON

Jeremiah VANDEPUNCH 1796

https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/brows...v=t17961026-27
Jeremiah VANDEPUMP 1799

https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/brows...v=t17990403-11

London and Surrey, England, Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1597-1921

Jeremiah Vanderpump

Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1763
Event Date: 10 Dec 1784
Parish: St Katherine
County: London
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Clark
Spouse's Age: 21
Spouse's Parish: St Katharine
Spouse's County: London
Event Type: Allegation
Reference Number: Ms 9772/75

Jeremiah states he is a Mariner of the Precinct of St Katherine’s a Bachelor of 21 years upwards
Intends to Marry Elizabeth CLARK a Widow aged 21 years upwards

Death of Jeremiah VANDERPUMP
Name: Jeremiah Vanderpump
Gender: Male
Age: 60
Birth Date: 1750
Burial Date: 7 May 1810
Burial Place: Whitechapel, Middlesex, England
FHL Film Number: 94713


Mary Vanderpump
Baptism Date: 6 Mar 1791
Parish: St Leonard, Shoreditch
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hackney
Parent(s): Jeremiah Vanderpump,
Sarah Vanderpump
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Regist

[GloriaVDP]

I did know about his convictions and that he was transported to Australia for 7 years, but now I know when he was born etc. and it would appear he must have returned to England. Thank you so much for this information it is a great help. Gloria

[matchstix]

Please could someone find a a few census's of my grandparents that would show the children all from their early ages (as usually born within a few years of each other, I guess. My Grandfather was Charles Edwin Ulrich (or spelt Ulrick during WW2 because of the german surname He was born I think 4 May 1872 in Mayfair, died 1935 in Willesden Middx and his wife Ada Ulrich (Ulrick) nee Webber born 1873? London Died Tenterden, Kent 9.3.1959 They probably lived in Inner London when first married. Thank you all. I cannot join to pay for searches due to exchange rate and being a pensioner whose Brit pension is going down hill!! due to Brexit! and the S.A. rand.

[christanel]

Hi
You can look for the births of children using the surname Ulrich and mother's maiden name Webber on the GRO index which is free. However it only gives births to 1916 (privacy laws) but from 1911 FreeBMD gives the mother's maiden name so used together they are a great resource.
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
You have to sign up to the GRO index but it is free to search and view results.

I can see one for a Charles Edward Ulrich March 1/4 1898
Henry Frederick 1900
Henry Alexander 1902
Leonard George 1904
Albert Thomas 1907
Violet Ada 1909
All Marylebone registration district

I'll take a look at the censuses
Christina

[christanel]

1901 they are living at 4 Langford Place Marylebone in the household of Henry G W Hawkins who is a coachman/groom. Charles age 28 is also a coachman/groom born St george's Middlesex. Ada age 29 born Kilburn, Middlesex. Their son Charles age 3 born Marylebone is with them. RG13 piece 118 folio 101 page 21
Christina