Brooks and Bryant families Nailsea 19th centu

[dian]

I have searched for view of marriage certificate 1911 as your info but it says no records found on Vic Govt site Di

[christanel]

Hi dian
I just tried searching for the marriage record again. I got one result when I entered Ann Walker, surname of spouse Ferrier - no first name. Putting in a first name Philip/Phillip won't give a result but putting in Phills as first name will.

It won't give a result if you put 1911 to 1911. It has to be either 1910 to 1911 or 1911 to 1912. Weird!

Then when it gives the single result you have to continue to the next page to buy some credits.

Christanel

[dian]

Thanks Christanel,

I don't have a credit card so can't buy online. Thanks for your work. I don't know if phills is a mistaken translation perhaps for Jules in old script, but then again he died 1880!

I'm getting dizzy turning in circles and inside-out.

I thought I was looking for F. Annie walker but it could be Fanny Walker. The dates 1910-1912 you give don't match for those of Fanny. And instead of looking for marriage I should perhaps be looking for divorce,prior to 1909, I think.

By the way, in which State did you look for Annie's marriage? I'm concentrating on Victoria or Western Australia. But, neither state has any record.

I wonder if standing on my head helps?

Di

[christanel]

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 about Annie Frances Walker
Annie Frances Walker
Spouse Name - Phills Nichls Ferrier - I think this is to be Phillip Nicholas
Married at - Victoria
Registered Victoria
Registration Year - 1911
Registration number - 10663
Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 about Annie Frances Walker
Annie Frances Walker
Spouse - Lholls Michl Terrier - I think this could be Nicholas Michael
Married at Victoria
Registered - Victoria
Registration Year - 1911
Registration number- 10663R

The marriage records are the same number just that the last one has an R at the end. So the groom is the same man. The only way to sort out the names would be to buy the certificates.

[dian]

I don't think it is Annie Frances I am looking for. I'm now think it may have been a Fanny Walker married to Nicholas Sholto Terrier cica 1905-1914. And, if Fanny Walker was Fanny Bri/yant?

[christanel]

Fanny Bryant whose parents were Samuel Bryant and Elizabeth Chard was definitely the partner of Nicholas Terrier.
Evidence
1.Death reg 1973 for Fanny Terrier age 91 Geelong Victoria reg no 17437. Parents Samuel Bryant and Elizabeth Chard.
This makes her birth c1881
2. Australian electoral Rolls from 1914 onwards both Fanny and Nicholas together.

I can't find a marriage for a Nicholas Sholto Terrier to Fanny Bryant.
BUT this could be Fanny's first marriage
Fanny Bryant married Henry Thomas walker Victoria 1903 registration no 7589.

Then the surname Walker is connected to the surname Terrier in the marriage reg I found earlier

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 about Annie Frances Walker
Annie Frances Walker
Spouse Name - Phills Nichls Ferrier - Phillip Nicholas?
Married at - Victoria
Registered Victoria
Registration Year - 1911
Registration number - 10663
Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 about Annie Frances Walker

Annie Frances Walker
Spouse - Lholls Michl Terrier - I think this could be Nicholas Michael
Married at Victoria
Registered - Victoria
Registration Year - 1911
Registration number- 10663R

I haven't looked for a death of Henry Thomas Walker. I also do not know why Fanny would use the names Annie Francis on the marriage cert (maybe she wanted something a bit fancier to match up with Nicholas) but as I have said before, buying the certificate could sort this out because if your Fanny it would name her father as it does on her death certificate.

Christanel

[christanel]

Birth
Nicholas Scholto Terrier
Father - Jules Terrier
Mother - Sarah Hodgson
Birth Place - In Ve, Victoria
Registered 1878
Registration Place - Victoria
Registration number - 23727

Death
Nicholas Sholto Terrier
Death Place: Geelong, Victoria
Age - 81
Estimated Birth Year - about 1878
Father - Jules
Mother - Sarah Hodgson
Registered 1959
Registration Place - Victoria
Registration number - 27757

[christanel]

Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923
Name - Jules Terrier
Estimated Birth Year - abt 1827
Age - 26
Arrival Date - 6 May 1853
Arrival Port - Melbourne, Australia
Departure Port - Liverpool
Ship - Prince Arthur
Nationality - Other Parts

Marriage
Jules Thomas Terrier
Spouse Name - Sarah Hodgson
Marriage Place - Victoria
Registration Place - Victoria
Registration Year - 1858
Registration number - 2600

Death
Jules Terrier
Death Place - Victoria
Age - 52
Father - Florentine
Mother - Rose Chardon
Registration year - 1880
Registration place - Victoria
Registration number - 4700
Estimated birth year about 1828

Death of another son?
Jules George Terrier
Melbourne, Victoria
Age 19 estimated birth year about 1865
Registered 1884
Registration place - Victoria
Registration number - 5164
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865

[christanel]

Possible remarriage of Jules' wife and Nicholas' mother Sarah Hodgson

James Day
Spouse Sarah Terrier
Marriage Place - Victoria
Registration Place - Victoria
Registration 1884
Registration number - 1818

Possible death of Sarah Hodgson/Terrier/Day

Name - Sarah Day
Death Place - Inverleigh, Victoria
Age 88 born about 1840
Father - Robt Hodgson
Mother - Stella Sorley
Registered 1928
Registration place - Victoria
Registration number - 15327

[dian]

I wonder where you got this information. I have it too but am not convinced Jules did come from Liverpool. He is not on ships passenger list. I am following up on a Nicholas Terrier from USA or Canada.

The family's story is that Jules had changed his name at a previous time and taken his cousins name because "the gendarmes were after him". Intriguing!!! Am resigned to not knowing this story. I guess in the frenzy of boat people in the 1850's with no authority confirming their identity, they could have called themselves anything

The birth details, therefore, would be of his cousin, not him.

I have info on 2 of Jules and Sarah's deceased children. Jules George may be one of them. I'll have to find my reference