Langsford - Reid

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Hi
I am looking for any information on the parents and 2nd marriage and children for my grandfather William Henry Langsford born 1859 in Crediton, Devon, England. According to the 1911 Census William Henry was 52 years old. He was married to Hope Ansell in April 1901 and had 9 children (born between 1863 and 1900). He married Lydia Reid in England their first child born 1903. Their childrens names are Marjorie, Walter, Doris, Leonard, Lawrence, Arthur, Phyllis (my mother) and Hilda. William Henry has lived in St Andrew, Devonshire and Shoreditch South as well as Tottenham, Middlesex. Any help you can give would be appreciated.

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There is a one year old William H Langsford living in Crediton on the 1861 census RG9/1472/46/11 at High Street, Crediton

Thomas Langsford b1818 Alphington Devon - a carpenter
Ann (wife) b1821 Lechlade Gloucestershire
Thomas b1847 St Augustine Bristol - a labourer
Joseph b1849
John b1850
Sarah A b1852
Elizabeth b1852
Emily b1857
Fanny b1859
William H b1860
George Vinney lodger single b1842 - carpenter

Children all born Crediton

Do you have either of his marriage certs which would give his father's name?

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Ancestry London Marriages has his marriage at St Mark, Old Street to Hope Ansell 6/4/1884 which confirms his father as Thomas Langsford - Carpenter.

So the above looks good for being your man in 1861.

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1871 census RG10/2119/118/44 at Union Place, St. Andrew, Plymouth

Thomas b1818 - Carpenter
Ann b1821
Elizabeth b1855
Fanny b1859
William H b1860

birth places as in 1861

1881 RG11/2198/18/31 at 5 Union Place, St Andrew

Thomas, Ann, Fanny (dressmaker), and William H (carpenter)

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There is a one year old William H Langsford living in Crediton on the 1861 census RG9/1472/46/11 at High Street, Crediton

Thomas Langsford b1818 Alphington Devon - a carpenter
Ann (wife) b1821 Lechlade Gloucestershire
Thomas b1847 St Augustine Bristol - a labourer
Joseph b1849
John b1850
Sarah A b1852
Elizabeth b1852
Emily b1857
Fanny b1859
William H b1860
George Vinney lodger single b1842 - carpenter

Children all born Credito

Hi
I am now trying to find the father of William Henry. My research shows two other posibilities from above (1)Thomas b1818 married to Ann Hargraves b1826 d1823 they show the same children as above with the same birthdates. (2) Thomas b 1818 married to Anne Locke b1821 however only show Sarah Ann b1831. Child birth date not the same. I am confused, can anyone help me?

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I think you really need to get William Henry's birth cert which will confirm the name of his parents and his mother's maiden name.

This looks like the reference;

William Henry Langsford - September qtr 1859 Crediton 5b 360

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Hi Penny: An update, I received copy of birth certificate on William Henry Langsford. His parents are Thomas Langsford and Ann Langsford formally Lock. It definately answered my question. Thanks for your help. Shari

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I am looking the the first wife of Thomas Langsford b: 1818 Alphington, Devon, England d:1887 Plymouth, Devonshire, England. I believe her name is Mary Ann Ware b:1821 D:4 July 1897. I do not see her on the 1851 census. I believe she had 5 children: Thomas 1847, Mary J 1848, Joseph 1849, John (Juno) 1850 and Sarah Ann 1851. Thomas later married Ann Lock on 12 May 1845 and had 6 or 7 children by her, as you can see from earlier posts. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Hi
According to the 1911 Census William Henry was 52 years old. He was married to Hope Ansell in April 1901 and had 9 children (born between 1863 and 1900). He married Lydia Reid in England their first child born 1903.

Something not quite right here.

1911 census RG14/PN1338/SN27 at 13 New North Road, Shoreditch

William Henry Langsford - widower b1859 Crediton Devon a carpenter (he obligingly fills in Married 28 years, 14 children 13 living which the enumerator scores through)
Cecil b1890 Shoreditch - soldier
Frank b1894 Clapton - glass blower
Lilian b1896 Islington - waitress
Harold b1898 Islington
Edwin b1901 Wood Green
Ermengard b1903 Harringay
Dorris b1908 Barking
Leonard b1909 Barking
Lawrence b1910 (6 months old) Southend
Lydia Giltnane - Housekeeper - married - b1879 Hoxton - she says married (no number of years given) 10 children 9 living

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Even more curious there is a death of Hope Langsford age 41 June qtr 1905 - Edmonton 3a -219

2 years after William's first child with Lydia ?