Jane Treloar, born 1887 Stithians, Cornwalll

[Colin Rowledge]

The young lady named above has been found in the 1891 census. She has been enumerated as the grand-daughter of John and Elizabeth Odgers.

John and Elizabeth had at least 8 children [1 of whom is an integral part of my Odgers tree].

2 of the 8 were daughters and neither appears to have married a Mr. Treloar. This leaves 6 sons. 1 died in early 1887 and is the father-in-law of my grand aunt and died age 29.

Another son, died in 1863 so he doesn't factor into the equation. Yet another son died in 1871. We are left with 3 sons, alive as of 1887, when the birth of Jane was registered. There names were Zacharias born 1867, John born 1872 and Simon William born 1873.

John and Simon William are with the parents in 1891, but I can't find Zacharias. John died in 1893 and didn't marry. He would have been 15 or so when Jane was born. Simon was younger.

This leads to believe Zacharias is the father. The only registration I can find is in Redruth district [which covers Stithians] Apr.-Jun. 1887. The name indicated is Lily Jane Treloar. If this is correct, then who was her mother and what happened to Zacharias?

I cannot find Stithians Parish Records on-line so assistance please would be appreciated

Colin

[Lizzy9]

Maybe one of the daughters was widowed and later married a Mr Treloar. Do you know who the daughters married; have you found them on census returns?

[Colin Rowledge]

Maybe one of the daughters was widowed and later married a Mr Treloar. Do you know who the daughters married; have you found them on census returns?

The 2 daughters were:
Grace E. - born 1861
Bessie J. - born 1863 - may havee been named Elizabeth and known as Bessie.

As I said, the girl [Jane] was born 1887.

I have yet to find them [with the right age and mother] in 1891 or 1901. No marriage for either in the period 1878-1886 on Free BMD.

I had found a marriage in Redruth in 1903 for a Grace Odgers to either Thomas Henry Knuckey or William Paul. Notrhing has shown up for Bessie.

[Colin Rowledge]

Colin, does the name Hitchens mean anything to you?

From Family Search Beta

Jane Hitchens Trelore
Bapt. 29 Mar 1887
Place: Hayle, Cornwall
Father: Thomas Trelore
Mother: Jane Hitchens
Indexing Project: 104635-8
Source Film No. 1796108

Hi Graham.
The name "Hitchens" means 'diddley-squat' to me.

But, thanks for trying.

[Lizzy9]

It is possible Grace died in 1880, or have you found her in 1881? If this is Grace, then obviously she can be discounted as Jane's mother.

Grace Ellen Odgers, birth year about 1865, died 3rd qrt 1880, reg Redruth, 5c/150

[Lizzy9]

There's a Bessie Treloar born right time and place on the 1891 census, she's married and living with her inlaws, I think her husband is James. The marriage index on freebmd has a James Treloar married Dec qrt 1883, Redruth 5c/424, the index has two grooms, only one bride, maybe the missing bride is Bessie?

1891, Redruth. RG12 Piece 1846 Folio 94 Page 5 (Crown copyright, in care of TNA)

Susan Treloar 52
James Treloar 28
Nanny Treloar 34
Sr. Susan Treloar 27
Bessie Treloar 28
Gertrude Treloar 7
Gladys Treloar 3

[Pam Downes]

There's a Bessie Treloar born right time and place on the 1891 census, she's married and living with her inlaws, I think her husband is James. The marriage index on freebmd has a James Treloar married Dec qrt 1883, Redruth 5c/424, the index has two grooms, only one bride, maybe the missing bride is Bessie?

I think the missing bride is Elizabeth Eddy. Shown on FreeBMD by one transcriber as being on page 421, whilst another transcriber says either page 421 or 424. I think it's 424.
Pam

[Gill Hart]

Colin,

Janie (sic) Treloar is still living with her grandmother Elizabeth Odgers (now widowed) in 1901 and is shown as a Farm Servant aged 14. They are living at Penhalvean, Stithians.

There is a Bessie Medlyn aged 37 living next door - could she be your Bessie? Husband is John Medlyn aged 45, a roper.

For future reference, there is an OPC site for Stithians https://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb....~stithiansopc/ but I couldn't find a baptism for Jane.

Hope this helps
Gill

OPC - St Erme and St Clement, Cornwall - https://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gillh/
Parish Reconstruction on St Erme, St Allen, Perranzabuloe, St Clement, Newlyn East, Probus, Merther, Ladock, St Enoder, Kea, Kenwyn, Truro, Philleigh, Ruan Lanihorne and St Agnes
OPC - Lockington, Kegworth, Castle Donington, Leicestershire

[Colin Rowledge]

I haven't had a chance to view this thread until a day ago. I thank everyone for posting comments to it and will see what develops

Colin

[Colin Rowledge]

Hi Gill.
I looked at the Medlyn family next door and Bessie in particular. Bessie has the right age. There are 3 kids there aged 15, 13 and 1 which is interesting?

I found a marriage for John Medlyn to a Bessie Blamey in Redruth in 1885 so the older kids could very well be hers. Haven't found a death for a Bessie Medlyn but could she have left John and he 'hooked' up with my Bessie which could account for newest addition and he was just passing this Bessie off as his spouse?

Am I missing something obvious?


Colin