new york passenger list?

[kellysmith1976]

Yes, the reason i am saying i think its my guy, Is the place of brith is wrong.. He was born Coleford Glocester.. Not somerset... But i suppose the enumerator may have heard wrong.. Yes i suppose he may have been a sailor!..

[Colin Rowledge]

Colin - Thats really intriging!.. Did you find out what happened to them whilst they were in US?.. I dont think i have any relatives over the pond.. I live in Kent England, and most of my family lines are from Kent.. Im back to 1570 on one side and we were still in Kent!...

I don't want to hijack your thread so I'll send you a p/m

[AdeleE]

The Ellis Island (New York) website has the following:


First Name: Henry R.
Last Name: Ellmer
Ethnicity: England
Last Place of Residence: Kent, England
Date of Arrival: Oct 19, 1908
Age at Arrival: 34y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Esperanza
Port of Departure: Nassau, Bahamas
Manifest Line Number: 0015

Is this of any help?

The image of this passenger list on Ancestry, same date, records the ship's name as Seneca, but the important information is that he is a member of the crew, job = seaman, and he states that he was last in the USA in 1894 at Philadelphia. He's 5' 3.5" tall, fair complexion, brown hair, hazel eyes.

[kellysmith1976]

Thank you so much Adele.. I love it when you get physical descriptions!.. Arrrr he was a little man!..
Oh and that is very interesting that he was a member of the crew.. so he could have been back and forth many times.. so he could have been back in England when he died?... Maybe ... Thanks again!!

[arthurk]

Henry Richard Ellmer was born in Coleford, Gloucester in 1874, I have him on 1881 census, I think i have him on 1891 census.

Yes, the reason i am saying i think its my guy, Is the place of brith is wrong.. He was born Coleford Glocester.. Not somerset... But i suppose the enumerator may have heard wrong.. Yes i suppose he may have been a sailor!..

I haven't looked at any of the censuses myself, but I thought I'd point out that there is a Coleford in Somerset as well, about 3 miles south of Radstock - possibly not as well-known as the Gloucestershire one. If the census schedule simply said "Coleford", the enumerator may have guessed which county was meant (and sometimes the enumerator's superior entered a county, which is why it appears in a different hand). To work out which of the censuses is (possibly) an incorrect guess you'll need to get Henry's birth certificate - or at least find him beyond doubt in the GRO indexes.

Arthur