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    Thomasin
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    Default A Guyett mystery

    I hope some of the downundies may be able to help with this query. The background is this:

    John Guyett (sometimes rendered as Guyatt, or even Guyet), b. 1822 at East Stratton, Hants, and his wife Sarah b. 1819 at Loughborough, Leics, had six children, John b. 1849, Lee, Kent; Henry Moses b. 1852, Plumstead; Sarah Elizabeth b. 1856 Plumstead; William b. Jun quarter 1857 Plumstead; Thomas G b. 1861 Sydenham and Alice E b. 1863 Streatham.

    In 1881 at the time of the census, Sarah Elizabeth was working at housekeeper for two single brothers in Streatham, Charles and Alfred Perrin, and her sister Alice was visiting. Later in the year, Sarah married the younger brother, Alfred Perrin, who was 20 years her senior, and in 1891 they are ‘Living on own means’ in Camberwell (she obviously fell on her feet). Meanwhile Charles Perrin was still in the same house in Streatham ‘Living on own means’, and boarding with him were John and Sarah Guyett, with John down as ‘Gardener’, and their daughter Alice was ‘Housekeeper’. Alfred died in 1892, and by 1901 Charles was living on his own, and died in 1902.

    This is where the questions start. In 1901, in addition to her own five children, Sarah Perrin was looking after two nieces, May L(ouisa) Guyett b. 1888 in Tottenham - and Elsie M(aud) Guyett b. 1894 in Australia. Elsie was still living with Sarah’s family in 1911, and her place of birth is given as ‘Hillsville, Victoria, Australia.’

    Whose daughters were they? Sarah’s brother John was living firmly in Berkshire with his own family, and the only two possibilities were William and Thomas. I find that Thomas married in 1884, had four children and disappeared. His wife Lilian, down as ‘Wife’ in 1891, died in 1900, and in 1901 two daughters are in an orphanage in Norfolk, his son is epileptic and a patient in Surrey and there is no sign of the youngest daughter. What a tragic little family, and what happened to Thomas George?

    So it seemed that Sarah’s brother William must have been the father of May and Elsie, and I found that W Guyett with two children, 1 boy and 1 girl under 12, came to London from Melbourne in 1898 on the ‘Ophir’, arriving on 12th January. I assume that the boy and girl were actually the two daughters.

    I could find no trace of William’s outward journey, but details of this were uncovered by my cousin in Australia, who found on the Index to Unassisted Inward Passenger Lists to Victoria:
    March 1890 ship ‘Aigburth’ B 527 001
    Guyett Jesseona age 6
    Guyett Louisa 35
    Guyett Marey 1
    Guyett Wm 34

    This tied in with a marriage in Jun ¼ in Lambeth of William Guyett and Louisa Valentine. ‘Jesseona’ was most likely Jessima Alice Guyett, b. Dec ¼ Edmonton in 1883. ‘Marey’ was probably May, and Elsie was born later at ‘Hillsville’, which it is suggested could be ‘Healesville’ near Melbourne.

    Louisa Guyett the mother and Jessima must have died, although so far we have not been able to find any proof of this, and William himself died in 1900 after bringing the remnants of his family back. If anyone could find the records of the Australian deaths, or any other record of their life in Australia, it would be so helpful.

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    a google search, qualifying Thomas George GUYETT in quotation marks brings up a lot of results for a man by the name of Thomas George GUYETT living in Port Fairy, Victoria.

    there are 2 digitised war service records for men with father Thomas George GUYETT on:
    https://www.naa.gov.au/collection/rec...rch/index.aspx

    I have not read these, hope there is something to connect to your family.


    Leanne

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    www.bdm.nsw.gov.au
    has a death entry , 1969 for an Albert Edward GUYETT, with father Thomas George and Mother Lillian.


    Leanne

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    Default OUR BOYS' LEAGUE?

    Thomas G. Guyett was elected president of OUR BOYS LEAGUE in 1917 (which may refer to support for the soldiers -I haven't read it) and there are some other hits on:

    https://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del...rchTerm=Guyett

    Jane

    PS Looks like they were funeral directors

    There is at least one very early date in the list that suggests a person of this name well before their arrival.
    Last edited by spison; 04-09-2009 at 4:28 AM. Reason: found more info

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    information extracted from Digger Federation Index. Victoria 1889-1901
    Elsie Maud GUYETT
    Parents - William and Louisa (nee VALENTINE)
    1893, birth registered at "Heal" which is most likely Healesville as suggested.
    Reg. Number: 23272

    Wfred Ellen Elizth GUYETT
    same parents
    Birth register Keilor, Victoria 1897

    Louisa GUYETT
    1897, death registered Essendon, Victoria, died aged 43
    Father: Guyett Wm
    Mother: Louisa VALLENTINE (looks like there was some confusion with naming her parents)
    Reg. Number: 5033
    Last edited by ChristineR; 04-09-2009 at 4:51 AM. Reason: forgot year of Louisa's death
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    Quote Originally Posted by ennael View Post
    www.bdm.nsw.gov.au
    has a death entry , 1969 for an Albert Edward GUYETT, with father Thomas George and Mother Lillian.


    Leanne
    all children surnamed GUYETT
    father- Thomas George
    mother- Lillian BLACKWELL
    year given is registration year, all births registered Maryborough, Victoria

    Albert Edward, 1893
    Reg. Number: 14687

    Beatrice Kate, 1901
    Reg. Number: 28381

    Ernt Paul, 1897
    Reg. Number: 12699

    Jno Blackwell, 1889
    Reg. Number: 23615

    Violet Alice, 1899
    Reg. Number: 28151

    Wm Bertram, 1891
    Reg. Number: 14619

    Francis Norman, 1895
    Reg. Number: 5243
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    extracted from the Digger Pioneer Index., Victoria

    Surname: GUYETT
    Given Names: Thomas George GUYETT birth reg 1886 Numurkah
    Father - Thomas George
    Mother - Lillian BLACKWELL
    Reg Number: 12627

    Lillian Victoria, birth reg 1887 at 'MARY'
    Reg Number: 21351

    Thomas and Lillian did not marry in Victoria

    FreeBMD - Thomas and Lillian married in the Cranbrook district (Kent/Sussex) June quarter 1884
    Last edited by ChristineR; 04-09-2009 at 5:10 AM. Reason: add marriage
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    another child, and a death of one.

    extracted from the Digger Edwardian Index. Victoria

    Alf Leonard GUYETT, birth reg Maryborough, 1904
    Reg. Number: 27224

    Death 1906 - Thos Geo GUYETT, aged 20, reg at Port Fairy
    Father: Guyett Thos Geo
    Mother: Lillian BLACKWELL
    Reg. Number: 10585
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    extracted from the Digger Death Index. Victoria 1921-1985

    Lillian GUYETT - died aged 70, death reg 1928 Port Fairy
    Father: Blackwell Jno
    Mother: Jemima BARNES
    Reg Number: 16716

    Thos Geo GUYETT, died aged 83, 1943, death reg at Port Fairy
    Father: Guyett John
    Mother: Sarah LEE
    Reg Number: 22585

    I have PMed the other deaths of Thomas' children from this cd.
    There were some marriages of Thomas' children in the Great War Index that I did not extract. (edit - done later)
    Last edited by ChristineR; 05-09-2009 at 11:01 AM. Reason: add more
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    Default A Connection?

    Quote Originally Posted by spison View Post
    There is at least one very early date in the list that suggests a person of this name well before their arrival.
    A convict, William Guyett per the Earl St. Vincent - 2nd Voyage

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