Cochrane, White and Parker from Epsom area

[JeanCochrane]

My Cochrane ancestors lived mainly in the London area, with White and Parker ancestors lived in Epsom.

Thanks for any information

[sue2white]

If you state the information that you already have, someone is bound to try to help to fill in the gaps.
Sue

[JeanCochrane]

My ancestor David Cochrane was born in 1819 in Edinburgh, Scotland but lived mainly in England. He married Jane Allen in 1843 in the country of Kent. Their children were William, Christina, David, Jane, Henerietta, Elizabeth, Edward, Margaret, James, Catherine and Alexander. David was a corporal in the artillary and lived in Canada for a period.

My ancestor Annie White (formerly Chandler) (born in 1854 and died in 1945)was married to a Charles White who was a games keeper in Headley. They had two daughters, Lillian and Isabella. Charles died and Annie married her brother in law John White in 1889 and they lived in Epsom. Annie and John had children Emma, Louisa, Arthur, and William. John may have died in the war. Annie lived on Bramble Walk in Epsom.

Isabella White married Albert Parker and they lived in Epsom.

Any information on these families would be welcom.

Thanks

[sue2white]

I cannot find the Cochane family at all. Did they stay in England? If you have no details of parentage, it might be worth sending for David & Janes marriage certifcate.

This is his marriage entry:
David Cochrane
Year of Registration: 1843
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Lewisham
County: Greater London, Kent, London
Volume: 5 Page: 308

Annie Chandler on 1861 census

Charles Chandler 33 Engine Cleaner on Railway b. Epsom
Maria J Chandler 29 wife b Cobham
James C Chandler 8 Epsom
Annie Chandler 6 Epsom
John F Chandler 4 Epsom
William H Chandler 2 Epsom
George Chandler 1 Mo Epsom

RG9; Piece: 419; Folio: 115; Page: 30;

Got to go shopping now - need food. Will come back later

Sue

[sue2white]

1871 This looks like the same family, although there are a few name changes
Mother is now called Isabella. So Annie named one of her children after her mother. Would suggest that Maria J was really Maria I on the 1861 census

Name Age
Charles Chandler 43
Isabella Chandler 39
Annie Chandler 16
John Chandler 14
Arthur Chandler 10
Ellen Chandler 6
Albert Chandler 4

RG10; Piece: 799; Folio: 25; Page: 42

Here is Charles Chandler in 1851 with father
Name Age
John Chandler 61 Professor of Music b Ashstead Surrey (creepy-my 2xgt grandfather was one too)
Charles Chandler 23 Epsom
Julia Chandler 19 Epsom

HO107; Piece: 1592; Folio: 382; Page: 13


1841 Mistranscribed
Name Age
John Chandley 50 Professor of Music.
Elizabeth Chandley 40 Not born in county
John Chandley 15
Charles Chandley 13
Julia Chandley 9

Class: HO107; Piece 1070; Book: 2;



CHARLES CHANDLER
Christening: 12 OCT 1827 Epsom, Surrey, England
Father: JOHN CHANDLER
Mother: ELIZABETH

Some Siblings:
ELIZABETH JULIA LUDLOW CHANDLER
Christening: 12 AUG 1831 Epsom, Surrey, England
JOHN CHANDLER
Christening: 28 JUN 1826 Epsom, Surrey, England

Ludlow may suggest mother's maiden name.

Possible christening:

ELIZABETH ANNE LUDLOW
Christening: 12 JUL 1796 Wimbledon, Surrey, England
Father: Charles LUDLOW
Mother: SARAH


Yes!!

ELIZATH. LUDLOW
Spouse: JOHN CHANDLER
Marriage: 09 AUG 1825 Saint Anne Soho, Westminster, London, England

Got to have a rest and food.

Sue

[JeanCochrane]

The information on Charles Chandler's family is great. Thank you so much.
As for the Cochrane family - I believe they did stay in England until sometime after 1861. In the 1871 Scotland census they appear to live in Edinburgh. David Cochrane may have died between 1871 and 1881 as he does not show up on the 1881 Scotland census. I did get the marriage certificate for David Cochrane and Jane Allen and discovered that David's father was also David.

I know that William Cochrane (1846 - 1906) stayed in England as my husband is his descendant. My husband`s family moved to Canada in 1954. I am trying to trace any descendants of William's siblings. I do know that Christina married a Charles Boulding. Jane married Arthur Newell. Heneriatta may have married a Andrew Thomson Mason.

I will continue to search and thank you for the information.

[sue2white]

Marriages Dec 1866
Boulding Charles M Liverpool 8b 169
Cochrane Christina Liverpool 8b 169

1871
Living: Phoebe-Ann Street Everton Liverpool
Charles M Boulding 35 Tailor Foreman b Dover Kent
Christina Boulding 25 b Dover Kent
RG10; Piece: 3822; Folio: 13; Page: 20

1881
Living Bishop Road, West Derby
Charles Mark Boulding 46 Tailor (12 employees)
Christina Boulding 36
Charles William Boulding 8 B Lancs Liverpool
Ada Jane Boulding 5 "
Frank Boulding 7mths "
Class: RG11; Piece: 3712; Folio: 60; Page: 18; & 19

Cannot find this family in 1891

1901
Living Ashlon Street Liverpool.
Charles Boulding 67 Master Tailor
Christina Boulding 57
Frank Boulding 20 Tailor
Ethel Boulding 17
Daisy Boulding 15
Class: RG13; Piece: 3416; Folio: 12; Page: 16.

This is the first census I have found William on:
1901

William Cochrane 53 Rope & Canvas ? Employer B Dover Kent
Elizabeth Cochrane 48 b Liverpool
Florence Cochrane 18 "
Hilda Cochrane 15 "
Mary Green 17 Servant
RG13; Piece: 3397; Folio: 103; Page: 22.

Could this be William's marriage entry?
Marriages Jun 1867
COCHRANE William Liverpool 8b 483
JONES Elizabeth Liverpool 8b 483

Will come back later

Sue

[sue2white]

Jane married Arthur Newell. Heneriatta may have married a Andrew Thomson Mason.

Where did they marry & live?

Sue

[sue2white]

Another possible marriage for William
Marriages Jun 1876
ALLEN Elizabeth Liverpool 8b 105
Briggs John Liverpool 8b 105
Cochrane William Liverpool 8b 105
Hall Ellen Liverpool 8b 105




Found David & family on 1861 census living in Everton Liverpool

David Cochrane 42 Chelsea Pensioner for the R Artuillery b Scotland
Jane Cochrane 40 b Scotland
William Cochrane 14 bQuebee B Subject, Canada
David Cochrane 12 b b Dover Kent
Jane Cochrane 10 b Kingston B Subject, Canada
Heneriatta Cochrane 8 b Quebee B Subject, Canada
Elizabeth Cochrane 7 b Dover Kent
Edward F Cochrane 5 B Woolwich
James Cochrane 2 b Scotland
Catherine Cochrane 2 Mo b Liverpool

If you look at this census, the family must have been in Quebec in 1851
When you look at William on 1901 census, it states he was born in Dover. I think this census is wrong as I have found his birth entry.

Births Dec 1846
Cochrane William Dover Vol 5 page 124

Have also found David & family in 1871 (as you have) and Jane with a few children in 1881. I cannot find David's death in England. Perhaps he died in Scotland??

David on 1841 Scottish census: Could this be your David???
Living Cowan's Close Edinburgh

Margaret Houston 30 F S (Family Servant??)
David Cochrane 50 Dyer
John Cochrane 25 Labourer
David Cochrane 20 Compositor All born Midlothian Scotland

David must have left Scotland to go south and seek his fortune!!

So where was William in 1871-91?

Sue

[sue2white]

Just found these two on the IGI. They might be worth checking out.

DAVID COCKRANE
Birth: 17 MAR 1816 Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Father: DAVID COCKRANE
Mother: ISABELLA FISHER
Batch;7306822


DAVID COCHRANE
Christening: 22 JUN 1822 Lasswade, Midlothian, Scotland
Father: DAVID COCHRANE
Mother: ALISON CAROLILE
Batch: C116917

These might be red herrings, especially as the mother's name in both these cases did not turn up in any of his children.

Sue

PS Just noticed that on 1871 census it says that David was born in Glasgow. So the 1841 census is probably not correct, or these IGI entries.